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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Only retards believe LeBron isn't an all-time great and I don't even like the guy.
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NBA Legend
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Lebron has to be #1 right now. You kidding me?
He scored 0 clutch points (under 5 min, within 5 pts) in the 2011 Finals. ZERO points on 0-7 FG.
Its 1 series.......... you can make even Jordan look like the biggest choker ever based on 1 series....
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Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
1. Karl Malone (The mail man never delivered when it mattered the most)
2. Elvin Hayes (In the '78 Finals against Seattle, Hayes scored 133 points in the first six games, but only 19 of those came in the fourth quarter, a statistic that became the key subplot of that Finals. In Game 7 in Seattle, Hayes scored just 12 points and fouled out with eight minutes remaining.)
3. LeBron James (For Now. His performance last year in the Finals is inexcusable)
4. Wilt Chamberlain (I beg you jlauber don't spam my thread with your long essays.)
5. David Robinson (His mid 90's teams usually dominated the season then underachieved in the postseason, his numbers dropped too.)
So......... you basically ignore what he has DONE HIS ENTIRE CAREER (and even all those series before the Finals last year where he was ridicilously clutch, to the point where even Pippen thought it was safe to say "Lebron is the greatest player of all time, sorry Mike").... because he couldnt be a clutch god in 1 god damn series???????????????????????
You either are a secret Lebron hater with an obvious agenda or truly dont know wtf you are talking about....
Last edited by pauk; 04-17-2012 at 04:08 AM.
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NBA Legend
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
1987_Lakers....
If Lebron is not clutch.... then your man Kobe for sure is even worse in that department.... as evident of facts such as those above you...
Kobe has made less gamewinners on more attempts in season or in playoffs since Lebron came in at 2004.... and during his career has been SHRINKING not only in clutch efficiency but on scoring/production efficiency in Playoffs while Lebron has been increasing his level of play, sometimes to a dramatical level....
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Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Kobe doesn't belong on this list. And he's certinally not a bigger choker than Karl Malone.
NOBODY... as of the moment... has been a bigger choker than Karl Malone, period.
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Brooklyn
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
And yet, despite pauk's plethora of useless stats...Kobe has 5 championship rings.
How many does LeBron have again?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
The difference between Kobe & LeBron is Kobe isn't afraid to take those shots, LeBron is. It's weird, I always saw LeBron as a clutch player, specifically from 2006-2009. His last season in Cleveland was the year when I started to see that he had problems in the clutch.
Kobe telling LeBron to grow a sack...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-B_l1bEos
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
It's less of a choke if you make an attempt but being completely passive in the final moments of the biggest stage of your career? Choking at its best. what's the point being a try hard on your way to the finals if you're just going to give the championship away by not even trying when you're there? complete choker.
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Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by LoneyROY7
And yet, despite pauk's plethora of useless stats...Kobe has 5 championship rings.
How many does LeBron have again?
There goes that ring excuse again....
Kobe is not the best anymore... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!
Kobe is declining..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!
Kobe is not clutch as they say..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!
Kobe rejped somebody..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzzz!!
Kobe has lost his Fro...... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzz!!!
Kobe is injured.... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!1111one!!!
What does a team accomplishment have ANYTHING to do with individual performance when the game is on the line? wtf!!
Reggie Miller for example had 0 rings and 99.9% players of all time only wished they were as clutch as him.... Actually, Reggie was often the most clutch player in the NBA.... and NOBODY called him the best player in the NBA... not even Top 5 and in some cases not even Top 10.........
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Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
The difference between Kobe & LeBron is Kobe isn't afraid to take those shots, LeBron is. It's weird, I always saw LeBron as a clutch player, specifically from 2006-2009. His last season in Cleveland was the year when I started to see that he had problems in the clutch.
Kobe telling LeBron to grow a sack...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN-B_l1bEos
Kobrick is a selfish douchebag and only wished that Lebron somebody so much better than Kobrick and so much more unselfish than Kobrick wanted to be like Kobrick and do stuff like this in the clutch:
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Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by pauk
Reggie Miller for example had 0 rings and 99.9% players of all time only wished they were as clutch as him.... Actually, Reggie was often the most clutch player in the NBA.... and NOBODY called him the best player in the NBA... not even Top 5 and in some cases not even Top 10.........
Who cares about that "one dimensional skeletor"
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Brooklyn
Re: Who is your top 5 biggest chokers among the All-Time Greats?
Originally Posted by pauk
There goes that ring excuse again....
Kobe is not the best anymore... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!
Kobe is declining..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!
Kobe is not clutch as they say..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!
Kobe rejped somebody..... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzzz!!
Kobe has lost his Fro...... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzz!!!
Kobe is injured.... but but but Kobe has 5 ringzzz!!!1111one!!!
What does a team accomplishment have ANYTHING to do with individual performance when the game is on the line? wtf!!
Reggie Miller for example had 0 rings and 99.9% players of all time only wished they were as clutch as him.... Actually, Reggie was often the most clutch player in the NBA.... and NOBODY called him the best player in the NBA... not even Top 5 and in some cases not even Top 10.........
So, if championships are only a team accomplishment and have nothing to do with individual performance, then why did you post this?
Originally Posted by pauk
...stop being so butthurt about Lebrons 3rd MVP... i couldnt care less, all he needs is a Championship...
Why would he NEED it?
Last edited by LoneyROY7; 04-17-2012 at 05:58 AM.
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