Did MJ ever choked in the playoffs?

[9erempiree]

He choked against Orlando. Also, he did kind of choke in the 80's.

[DonDadda59]

Also, he did kind of choke in the 80's.

Against whom exactly? What team was he favored against that he lost to and choked against? The GOAT team candidate '86 Celtics who he dropped 63 on and averaged 44/6/6 (51%) against with Orlando Woolridge as his second option?

The Pistons when Pippen and Grant were both coming off the bench and then later suffering migraines against in game 7 of the ECF?

[Eric Cartman]

How exactly did the league make Jordan unstoppable? Really looking forward to reading about that.

By calling ticky tack fouls on anyone that dare even to do as much as breath on him and the refs biased against the anyone that went up to him.

For reference see the 1998 Finals against the Jazz and 1993 against the Knicks. Hell even 1998 against the Pacers we saw some shady officiating clearly favoring the Bulls cause the league wanted to see the second 3 peat at all costs, in this case at the expense of the integrity of the league.

[NumberSix]

True. Plowking also has a good point. Do y'all consider Kobe's 6-24 a "choke" or him simply playing like garbage?

It's hard to say that simply missing your shots is a "choke", but if you believe that the reason someone missed their shots is because they folded under the pressure of a big game, that is a choke.

[Angel Face]

None, He played well against the Bad Boy Pistons. It was his team mates that under performed and Scottie Pippen is not yet the Scottie Pippen during that series.

[tmacattack33]

Never lost with HCA. GOAT.

Interesting if true.

On the flipside, then that means whenever he was eliminated it was without HCA. So he failed to perform on the road against tougher teams. If it was any other player, the spin would be that this player is b*atch because he can't handle not having HCA against anyone with a better regular season record than him.

[9erempiree]

Against whom exactly? What team was he favored against that he lost to and choked against? The GOAT team candidate '86 Celtics who he dropped 63 on and averaged 44/6/6 (51%) against with Orlando Woolridge as his second option?

The Pistons when Pippen and Grant were both coming off the bench and then later suffering migraines against in game 7 of the ECF?

You don't have to be favorites to choke. The mere fact that the got the ball ripped against Orlando is proof enough of choking.

[JT123]

By calling ticky tack fouls on anyone that dare even to do as much as breath on him and the refs biased against the anyone that went up to him.

For reference see the 1998 Finals against the Jazz and 1993 against the Knicks. Hell even 1998 against the Pacers we saw some shady officiating clearly favoring the Bulls cause the league wanted to see the second 3 peat at all costs, in this case at the expense of the integrity of the league.

Agreed. Jordan knob slobers are about to curse you out though.

[Da_Realist]

People call Kobe's 6-24 a choke and that he got saved by teammates...

How is Jordan's 5-19 close out against Seattle any different?

He shot poorly. He didn't choke. The Bulls were up 10 the whole game.

So what do we consider his closeout game against Seattle? How about game 7 against the Pacers? Just bad games?

Phil Jackson was so impressed at MJ's insistence on driving to the hoop to draw fouls and manufacture points despite his fatigue that he highlighted it in game film for the rest of the Bulls in the next practice to show the willpower they would need to have to win the championship that year. So...no. He did not choke.

Bird mentioned this as well in his post game comments.

[Da_Realist]

93 Series vs New York

He shot poorly in some games, but he didn't choke nor did he play poorly.

[DonDadda59]

By calling ticky tack fouls on anyone that dare even to do as much as breath on him and the refs biased against the anyone that went up to him.

For reference see the 1998 Finals against the Jazz and 1993 against the Knicks. Hell even 1998 against the Pacers we saw some shady officiating clearly favoring the Bulls cause the league wanted to see the second 3 peat at all costs, in this case at the expense of the integrity of the league.

The league making Jordan 'unstoppable' in the 90s...

90-93
Reg Season: 23.7 FGA (2.1 3-pter attempts/gm), 7.9 FTA
Playoffs: 25.8 FGA (2.6 3-pter attempts/gm), 9 FTA

96-98
Reg Season: 22.9 FGA (2.8 3-pter attempts/gm), 7.9 FTA
Playoffs: 24.7 FGA (3 3-pter attempts/gm), 9.6 FTA

Upholding the 'integrity of the league' in the modern era...

LeBron 10-14
Reg Season: 18.6 FGA (3.7 3-pter attempts/gm), 8.2 FTA
Playoffs: 19.5 FGA (4.1 3-pter attempts/gm), 8.8 FTA

Durant 10-14
Reg Season: 19.6 FGA (4.9 3-pter attempts/gm), 9.2 FTA
Playoffs: 20.3 FGA (6 3-pter attempts/gm), 9.2 FTA

If Jordan got to play in this era filled with so much 'integrity', he'd be even more 'unstoppable'

But hey...

[D.J.]

He's had games where he didn't shoot well, or missed shots with a chance to tie or win the game. But let's look at it like this; he never lost a series with HCA and the only instance you really can say he choked was where he was just 2 months into a return where he hadn't played in almost 2 years.

[DonDadda59]

You don't have to be favorites to choke. The mere fact that the got the ball ripped against Orlando is proof enough of choking.

OK, so let's say him coming back to play 17 games after being out for nearly 2 seasons and having a turnover against the Magic is considered choking. You said he 'kind of choked in the 80s'. Tell me specifically against whom and how.

[plowking]

DonDadda, you're sad bro. Another Jordan jocker who's worried about Lebron's place in history, and potential place above Jordan that he has to bring him down in every thread.

Anyone notice Jordan fans never did that 4 or 5 years ago when he was on the Cavs? The whole Jordan brigade was too busy with Kobe. Jordan fans are probably the worst on this site to be honest. Don't say a single bad word about their idol...

[DonDadda59]

DonDadda, you're sad bro. Another Jordan jocker who's worried about Lebron's place in history, and potential place above Jordan that he has to bring him down in every thread.

Anyone notice Jordan fans never did that 4 or 5 years ago when he was on the Cavs? The whole Jordan brigade was too busy with Kobe. Jordan fans are probably the worst on this site to be honest. Don't say a single bad word about their idol...

F*ck outta here you clown

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