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Old 01-19-2011, 04:00 AM   #31
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They mainly got by on their defense. They were a great defensive team under Larry Brown.
Yeah, that's why they needed someone like AI to take all those shots.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:01 AM   #32
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22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average
Just a few years ago, 2008 ...

This was basically his averages when he was with the Nuggets (and was their best player too) ... he toned down the chucking, upped the passing a little more and the Nuggets were better for it.

If only he still played defense and maturity and age set in for him at some point.

But alas the next year he got into boozing and gambling and the rest is history.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:02 AM   #33
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22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough

Yeah because he had people to get him 9 assists.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:02 AM   #34
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22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough
The sixers had a tall PG who couldn't shoot (Snow)... A great match
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:03 AM   #35
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Yeah because he had people to get him 9 assists.
Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:04 AM   #36
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He can be what 75% of ISH thought he was, but will never be what Allen Iverson really was or what AI was capable of being with out David Stern tearing down his career.
Coming from a Bulls fan, Allen Iverson had the potential to be the GOAT and im serious. He alone took the 76ers to the finals with his second option being who? Larry Hughes?
Come on, the second best player on that team was Dikembe Mutombo and he got shit on by shaq.
I don't see DRose getting us to the finals this year and DRose actually has good backup.

I feel that many posters on this board underrate what dedication and heart Allen Iverson spilled on to this game of basketball. Iverson wasn't just good not only because people liked seeing the shortest guy on the court dominating, but because he did the impossible and unthinkable and he always somehow got his team through.
We will never see another guy under 6 feet tall devour teams like AI did and I will be amazed if we do as long as im alive.

Just my 2 cents.

Lots of respect brother, I totally agree!
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:04 AM   #37
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Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.
Paul's got better offensive players in his team that AI had then.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:06 AM   #38
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Ask 2008 and 2009 CP3, who athletically and skill wise is similar to Iverson ... how to get the most out of lesser players.

Brown played him at SG for a reason. He wasn't accepting of the natural PG role.

DId AI have David West (All-Star)?
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:07 AM   #39
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22ppg and 9ast on good % should have been his average

30ppg and 5ast on bad % was what he decided to go for


instead of the sixers being able to have a tall capable SG on defense. they had to have 2 short back court players and have 1 of them get abused nightly by apposing teams SG's

iverson was better at SG because he didnt want to be a PG. he sucked at PG because he didnt try hard enough


I agree with this.


AI could have been the one of the GOAT at the PG position if he wanted to. A modern day Tiny Archibald.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:11 AM   #40
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I agree with this.


AI could have been the one of the GOAT at the PG position if he wanted to. A modern day Tiny Archibald.
This is like when people say Dirk should play a different, "proper PF" style...
He played best that way, why would he have to change? To play the "right way"?
If a coach like Brown played him at SG, it was with good reason.
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DId AI have David West (All-Star)?
No, he had Mutombo who was an All Star ... who was a legit All Star before Iverson.

CP3 made David West
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:16 AM   #42
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No, he had Mutombo who was an All Star ... who was a legit All Star before Iverson.

CP3 made David West
As far as offense (and assists, which is what we're talking about), West >>>> Mutombo.
And Mutombo was a midseason trade...
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The sixers had a tall PG who couldn't shoot (Snow)... A great match
Snow was 6'3" at best, not exactly a tall PG or a guy that could bother upper echelon 2's well.
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As far as offense (and assists, which is what we're talking about), West >>>> Mutombo.
And Mutombo was a midseason trade...

wtf mutombo was the anchor of that 76ers team. and so how does him being a midseason trade have to do with the playoffs?
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This is like when people say Dirk should play a different, "proper PF" style...
He played best that way, why would he have to change? To play the "right way"?
If a coach like Brown played him at SG, it was with good reason.


Yeah and they came up short because they built the team around a sub 6 foot 2-guard.
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