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    Default Re: ISH All-time Top 25 Guards Project: #2 Kobe Bryant vs Magic Johnson.

    Quote Originally Posted by kurt_rambis
    the point is that they didn't have the best record in the league any of those years. playoffs don't matter in mvp voting

    and in none of those years was kobe a clear mvp favorite

    btw 2001 shaq was CLEARLY better, by any statistical or intangible measurement. if anything shaq was robbed of the mvp that year

    again....they had the best record in the western Conference and won Championships.....and many MVP's have won without the best overall record.

    and again...Kobe Bryant was the Lakers best overall player and widely regarded as the NBA's best allaround player....ESPN Shaq and Phil Jackson even said it....marginal stats hold little weight.

    best allaround.....already a First team alldefensive player and the Lakers first option in Crunchtime....

    Shaq never made an all defensive first team....and was the last option in crunchtime....no where near the allaround player Kobe was.



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    Default Re: ISH All-time Top 25 Guards Project: #2 Kobe Bryant vs Magic Johnson.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaPerceive
    There are about three to four seasons I would say Kobe didn't deserve to make an all-defensive team. 2005-2006, 2006-2007, 2009-2010, and 2010-2011. Every other season I would say Kobe was worthy of that All-NBA Defensive spot.

    A lot of people get carried away though..


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