LeBron was a better defensive player than MJ and Kobe

[TheCorporation]

I saw people arguing he was not better than MJ or Kobe which had me wondering how people didn't know that LeBro most definitely IS a better defensive player So here it is, read it and weap


Regular season
Peak DRtg
[COLOR="Green"]LBJ = 97, 99, 100 (98.66 average)[/COLOR]
MJ = 100, 100, 101 (100.33 average)
Goatbe = 98, 102, 103 (101 average)

Peak DWS
LBJ = 6.5; 5.7; 5.3 (5.83 average)
[COLOR="Green"]MJ = 6.2; 6.1; 5.6 (5.96 average)[/COLOR]
Goatbe = 4.5; 4.3; 4.0 (4.26 average)

Peak DPBM
[COLOR="Green"]LBJ = 3.6; 2.8; 2.7 (3.03 average)[/COLOR]
MJ = 2.7; 2.3; 1.8 (2.26 average)
Goatbe =1.7; .3; .3 (0.76 average)

Landslide win for LeBron. LBJ's peak was better in 2 of 3 categories as was his best 3 season average.


Playoffs


Peak DRtg
[COLOR="Green"]LBJ = 99, 99, 99 (99 average)[/COLOR]
MJ = 101, 101, 101 (101 average)
Goatbe = 99, 101, 103 (101 average)

Peak DWS
[COLOR="Green"]LBJ = 1.6; 1.6; 1.5 (1.56 average *tie)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]MJ = 1.7; 1.5; 1.5 (1.56 average*tie)[/COLOR]
Goatbe = 4.5; 4.3; 4.0 (4.26 average)

Peak DPBM
[COLOR="Green"]LBJ = 5.8; 5.1; 4.3 (5.06 average)[/COLOR]
MJ = 4.2; 3.8; 3.3 (3.76 average)
Goatbe =1.4; 1.2; .9 (1.16 average)

And again, another landslide win for LeBron. His peak was better in 2 of 3 categories, as was his best 3 season average.

I almost feel a bit silly posting this. Like, who didn't know this already?

[G0ATbe]

Stats always leave Kobe on the outside looking in . I hate them so much

[TheCorporation]

Stats always leave Kobe on the outside looking in . I hate them so much

A lot of Kobe fans use their feelings and emotions to make decisions which cloud the factual, pragmatic nature of advanced analytics. Your'e one of the good Goatbe fans out there, tho, no doubt

[MJistheGOAT]

Why do you sometimes use peak or few seasons sample stats and then start boasting about total stats and longevity????

At least be consistent.

I

[AlternativeAcc.]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]Why do you sometimes use peak or few seasons sample stats and then start boasting about total stats and longevity????

At least be consistent.

I

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]Why do you sometimes use peak or few seasons sample stats and then start boasting about total stats and longevity????

At least be consistent.

I

[TheCorporation]

Media narrative driven awards don't count little guy, sorry


The stats and eye test don't lie... LeBron has many more pivotal defensive moments in the playoffs than Jordan and Kobe combined... LeBron has made a career out of shutting down MVPs and ruining their careers.. think Rose, Curry, and George

It is as if facts do not matter any longer when it comes to these crazies defending MJ.

MJ is a good player
He did many things well.

He is NOT better than LeBron.

Period.

[MJistheGOAT]

Media narrative driven awards don't count little guy, sorry


The stats and eye test don't lie... LeBron has many more pivotal defensive moments in the playoffs than Jordan and Kobe combined... LeBron has made a career out of shutting down MVPs and ruining their careers.. think Rose, Curry, and George

Paul George got an MVP??? Nice info.
Curry has NEVER been shut down by Lebron

I think he also "shut down" Kawhi, Iggy and KD for a total of 4 FMVPs
Eye test: MJ by a mile
Stats: MJ
Awards: MJ

Lebron

[3ball]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]Why do you sometimes use peak or few seasons sample stats and then start boasting about total stats and longevity????

At least be consistent.

I

[AlternativeAcc.]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]Paul George got an MVP??? Nice info.
Curry has NEVER been shut down by Lebron

I think he also "shut down" Kawhi, Iggy and KD for a total of 4 FMVPs
Eye test: MJ by a mile
Stats: MJ
Awards: MJ

Lebron

[TheCorporation]

MJ was 38-39 years old for 2 seasons and also missed 2 seasons due to injury (86') and baseball (95') - so his 9 all-defense was in 11 seasons..

And the reality is that there's never been a more intense, tenacious perimeter defender.. ever.. the tape shows him suffocating guys on the perimeter with goat reflexes to get steals and stops - no one in history had it like that - how many times was he guarding a guy behind the 3-pt line and jump to steal their entry pass to the post - cat-like reflexes, quickness, and perimeter athleticism that we've never seen before

MJ beat LeBron in 1 of 6 defensive analytic measures.

LeBron is the better defender. Obviously. Can we move on, now?

What was Mike EVER better than LBJ at?


Peak for peak LBJ > MJ
Best 3 season average LBJ > MJ

Then I did the same for the post season LBJ > MJ

LBJ led in 5 of the 6 categories. I mean. Ouch?

[MJistheGOAT]

Kawhi and Iggy combined for less PPG than LeBron's AVERAGE ppg in the finals.. literally

LeBron also beat KD, WB, and Harden.. 3 MVP's on the same team.. Wowzers


He's made a career out of shutting down MVP's in the playoffs and has better stats and more iconic moments than Kobe/Jordan combined, deal with it buddy

Kawhi and Iggy got FMVP as SF on the opposing team of Lebron.

Lebron + Wade + Bosh + rest of team + refs + lockout season beat baby KD, baby Wb and 6th man Harden.

KD in 2012 got 30.6 ppg on 548/394/839%
What a defensive performance, GOAT

[3ball]

MJ beat LeBron in 1 of 6 defensive analytic measures.

LeBron is the better defender. Obviously. Can we move on, now?

What was Mike EVER better than LBJ at?


Peak for peak LBJ > MJ
Best 3 season average LBJ > MJ

Then I did the same for the post season LBJ > MJ

LBJ led in 5 of the 6 categories. I mean. Ouch?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7bnzchpKZ4


Lebron is slow compared to that.. he's fast for a forward, but slow compared to a quick guard

Remember mj's steal vs Xavier McDaniel and then the windmill slam? GOAT.. lebron ain't got it like that

[Gus Hemmingway]

We already knew from eye test, but now we have irrefutable evidence on wax

To make things worse LBJ is guarding the best of the best every night, not Kerry Kittles and Jeff Hornacek

This era is loaded from top to bottom with HOF forwards

[superduper]

This kid spews Gamescore/VORP/DWS but has literally NO idea what they mean.

Hey dude what's Gamescore about again? Dominance?