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    Default Re: Why does america spend so much money in military....

    Because in the good ole US of A killing foreigners is more important than saving Americans

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    Quote Originally Posted by navy
    Free healthcare doesnt exist and let's be honest, the united states military budget is unsustainable. The funny thing is that we could cut our budget and still be just as strong.
    China is patient. The minute we do that, the very second we aren't able to stop them is when they will make all the moves they've been dying to make for decades now that the American military presence all over the world has prevented.

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    Default Re: Why does america spend so much money in military....

    Quote Originally Posted by longtime lurker
    Because in the good ole US of A killing foreigners is more important than saving Americans

    Especially when those foreigners talk about blowing themselves up and innocent infidels.

    The blood of all of those animals can fill the Grand Canyon. And the Canyon looks pretty empty to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    Especially when those foreigners talk about blowing themselves up and innocent infidels.

    The blood of all of those animals can fill the Grand Canyon. And the Canyon looks pretty empty to me.
    Does supporting other people kill foreigners make up for your failed John Rambo fantasies

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    Default Re: Why does america spend so much money in military....

    Military industrial complex...look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBballer
    You can hate Trump but he makes a good point that we are defending the rest of the world.

    Germany, Japan, Italy, Denmark etc are spending 1-2% of their GDP on their military defense while the United States spends 3.5% of their GDP on military defense. Time to let the rest of the world fend for themselves especially these socialist European countries that are essentially receiving free protection allowing these countries to spend a larger portion of their GDP in terms of social services for their citizens.



    Infrastructure sure but we already are near the top in the world in terms of education per student and it hasn't gotten us much.



    Now I'm not sure what the answer is to improving education but I don't think throwing more money at the problem will fix the issue.
    There is no solution that doesn't include more money; at least in the short term. So yes, throwing more money will fix the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALBballer
    You can hate Trump but he makes a good point that we are defending the rest of the world.
    Trump doesn't understand that the United States hugely benefits from doing so.

    It has very long term benefits to the US for both trade and security reasons.

    Trump's idea of diplomacy is super short term and it's transactional, how much can I get out this now.....that is he thinks like a real estate developer in NYC.

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    [QUOTE=Nick Young]Free healthcare is unsustainable and and leads to laziness. Just look at the failing EU as an example as to why the US doesn't offer free healthcare.


    The American standard of living would go down if we did not have a dominant military.

    Here's an example how: In the US, the price of gas is like $3 a gallon.

    In the UK, it's

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    Default Re: Why does america spend so much money in military....

    As for healthcare: it's all about managed competition
    Read this: http://monthlyreview.org/2003/09/01/...s-health-care/

    Business interests play the biggest role in determining the health care system the US (and now most of Western Europe as well) has. As long as trying to solve a problem would mean earning less money than maintaining a problem, it will be made sure that the solutions won't be found. Too much money being earned there. And I'm not talking about AIDS or Cancer perse. I'm talking about much bigger problems such as malnutrition, diabetes etc.

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    ACA already subsidizes healthcare, a transition into a full singleplayer system would probably cause a loss in jobs as the insurance industry creates close to a million jobs. Single payer competing with private insurance would be the best option creating competition and driving down costs.
    Pressure EU to up military spending and scale back military a half percentage point of GDP and reallocate funds towards manufacturing and replacing our aging naval fleet, air force, and technologies. This would streamline our military and create domestic economic stimulus. I personally do not have a problem with the percentage of GDP spent on defense currently.
    Focus heavily on infrastructure(roads, highways, pipes, etc) directing federal funds to state governments. Allocate more funds to the Small Business administration to finance small businesses as they have been hit hardest by the economic downturn. Focus heavily on nuclear power and start construction now so we can conserve oil for military operations and have economic leverage when peak oil hits. This is what I believe the US should do for the next couple of decades.
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    Because America is a vast Empire pretending to be a country, and a powerful military is extremely important in preserving that. Also, American 'conservatives' (who were philosophically inclined not to support militarism and warmaking and the vested interests it creates), made the concession because of the overblown threat provided by the Soviet Union, a power that could not hold, and which would've collapsed in its own sweet time, without America completely destroying itself in the process.

    Conservatives should have been the force of restraint in this aspect (and some few were), but large numbers became little more than shills for the military industrial complex, with disastrous long term consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeuceWallaces
    There is no solution that doesn't include more money; at least in the short term. So yes, throwing more money will fix the issue.


    Didn't take a logic class on your way to that plant phd did you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chosen_one6
    Military industrial complex...look it up.
    http://www.inquisitr.com/1693852/con...t-doesnt-want/

    Cut out the tanks, you cut out a lot of jobs.

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    working in the US hospitals to hospital in antwerp i can tell you that free healthcare is garbage. In the US, atleast you get the best service possible barring payment. In belgium medical advances take ages to incorporate translationally because cost to the government is a big factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigNBAfan
    working in the US hospitals to hospital in antwerp i can tell you that free healthcare is garbage. In the US, atleast you get the best service possible barring payment. In belgium medical advances take ages to incorporate translationally because cost to the government is a big factor.
    Point me to ONE thing the government runs efficiently.

    That's what I don't understand about the whole 'we want government to control every aspect of our lives' group here in the states. Like, why? What evidence have you seen to make you think that's a good idea?

    I mean, really, I can't think of one single thing that the government runs well. We spent billions upon billions to make a ****ing website. Never mind the fact that many involved with its creation just so happened to be political backers who donate truck loads of cash to influential people.

    Federal officials considered only one firm to design the Obamacare health insurance exchange website that has performed abysmally since its Oct. 1 debut.

    Rather than open the contracting process to a competitive public solicitation with multiple bidders, officials in the Department of Health and Human Services' Centers for Medicare and Medicaid accepted a sole bidder, CGI Federal, the U.S. subsidiary of a Canadian company with an uneven record of IT pricing and contract performance.

    As the Examiner previously reported, CGI in Canada also suffered embarrassment in 2011 when it failed to deliver on time for Ontario province's flagship project a new online medical registry for diabetes patients and treatment providers.

    Ontario government officials cancelled the $46.2 million contract after 14 months of delay in September 2012. Ontario officials currently refuse to pay any fees to CGI for the failed IT project.
    What the ****? Its crazy to think the a random start up from Canada with less than stellar track record of creating health databases was in charge of creating... a health database for the US population. They couldn't even create one for Ontario, but yet, they were the only bid considered to create one for the entire US.

    Nobody finds that odd?

    Just goes to show how dumb the American people are, now, as a collective.

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