Worst Finals #2 option?

[TheCorporation]

2006 Antoine Walker

Updated

[Big164]

2015 Iggy


16ppg



He wear Nikes tho...

[ImKobe]

Lebron in 2011

Oh wait, he was the 3rd option

[TheCorporation]

Careful Kobe fan, he is ON the list

List update

Top 10 lowest ppg #2 Finals scorers

[ 1.] '98 Hornacek (10.7 ppg)
[ 2.] '89 Kareem (12.5 ppg)
[ 3.] '07 Gooden (12.8 ppg)
[ 4.] '94 Maxwell (13.4 ppg)
[ 5.] '06 Walker (13.8 ppg)
[ 6.] '15 Mozgov (14.0 ppg)
[ 7.] '08 Gasol (14.7 ppg)
[ 8.] '97 Stockton (15.0 ppg)
[ 9.] '14 Wade (15.2 ppg)
[10.] '00 Bryant (15.6 ppg)

[ImKobe]

Careful Kobe fan, he is ON the list

List update

Top 10 lowest ppg #2 Finals scorers

[ 1.] '98 Hornacek (10.7 ppg)
[ 2.] '89 Kareem (12.5 ppg)
[ 3.] '07 Gooden (12.8 ppg)
[ 4.] '94 Maxwell (13.4 ppg)
[ 5.] '06 Walker (13.8 ppg)
[ 6.] '15 Mozgov (14.0 ppg)
[ 7.] '08 Gasol (14.7 ppg)
[ 8.] '97 Stockton (15.0 ppg)
[ 9.] '14 Wade (15.2 ppg)
[10.] '00 Bryant (15.6 ppg)

The ppg is skewed for Kobe because he was injured in the first quarter and missed the rest of the game and played hurt for the rest of the series, he averaged ~20 ppg if you take away that game. '00 Kobe isn't anywhere near the worst because he was an elite defensive player and closed out a Finals road game with Shaq fouled out & also closed out the series late in Game 6.

[TheCorporation]

2015 Iggy


16ppg



He wear Nikes tho...

No

Not even close

[jayfan]

Who was Houston's #2 option in '94?




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[TheCorporation]

Who was Houston's #2 option in '94?




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They made Finals in 94 not 93

And 94 Maxwell is on the list

[3ball]

Regular Season

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg

Worst Finals #2 option

Was Klay Thompson ever the leading scorer on a 55 win team that beat Magic's Lakers the prior year and made the WCF for the 2nd year in a row?

Because Hornacek was in 91-92' for the Suns..

And did Klay ever average 5.8 apg for 8 years like Hornacek from 88-94' (16/4/6), including a 19/4/7 and 20/5/5 season?... Klay averages like 1 APG - he's just a robot 3-point shooter, not a nuanced offensive player that could hurt you at any moment anywhere on the court (not just outside the 3-pt line), and in more ways (passing and scoring)

Btw, MJ was mostly guarded by Byron Russell, as the record shows

[TheCorporation]

Regular Season

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 17.7 PER.. 58.2 ts.. 0.154 WS/48.. 3.0 BPM.. 117 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.4 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.110 WS/48.. 0.2 BPM.. 109 ortg.. 108 drtg


Playoffs

J HORNACEK:[COLOR="White"]f.[/COLOR] 16.5 PER.. 57.5 ts.. 0.145 WS/48.. 3.9 BPM.. 116 ortg.. 108 drtg
K THOMPSON:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.9 PER.. 55.7 ts.. 0.094 WS/48.. 0.9 BPM.. 107 ortg.. 109 drtg



Was Klay Thompson ever the leading scorer on a 55 win team that beat Magic's Lakers the prior year and made the WCF for the 2nd year in a row?

Because Hornacek was in 92' for the Suns before he became an all-star for the jazz in 93'..

And did Klay ever average 5.8 apg for 8 years like Hornacek from 88-94' (16/4/6), including a 19/4/7 and 20/5/5 season?... Klay averages like 1 APG - he's just a robot 3-point shooter, not a nuanced offensive player that could hurt you at any moment anywhere on the court (not just outside the 3-pt line), and in more ways (passing and scoring)

Btw, MJ was mostly guarded by Byron Russell, as the record shows

List update

Top 10 lowest ppg #2 Finals scorers

[ 1.] '98 Hornacek (10.7 ppg)
[ 2.] '89 Kareem (12.5 ppg)
[ 3.] '07 Gooden (12.8 ppg)
[ 4.] '94 Maxwell (13.4 ppg)
[ 5.] '06 Walker (13.8 ppg)
[ 6.] '15 Mozgov (14.0 ppg)
[ 7.] '08 Gasol (14.7 ppg)
[ 8.] '97 Stockton (15.0 ppg)
[ 9.] '14 Wade (15.2 ppg)
[10.] '00 Bryant (15.6 ppg)

[Real14]

Worst final 2nd option was your dad not pulling out in time.

[Real14]

Who was Houston's #2 option in '94?




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Kenny smith or Maxwell right?

[3ball]

When you include efficiency, Pippen's 15.7 on 34% is the worst of all time (96')

Otoh, Mosgov averaged 14 on 55%

[TheCorporation]

When you include efficiency, Pippen's 15.7 on 34% is the worst of all time (96')

Otoh, Mosgov averaged 14 on 55%

So LBJ got him better looks?

Nice try baby boy

[3ball]

So LBJ got him better looks?

Nice try baby boy

[COLOR="Navy"]Nah, bad offense was standard for Pippen - he was bad in most big series the bulls played:[/COLOR]

1988 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 10.0 on 46.5%

1989 PLAYOFFS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] DET:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 21.7 on 40.5%

1995 ECSF vs ORL:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] vs. MIA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECF[COLOR="White"]S[/COLOR] vs[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] IND:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 15.7 on 41.0%

[COLOR="black"]The bulls had to learn to win despite Pippen's anemic offense

One way they managed was to have MJ take all the shots down the stretch of games

Phil Jackson to teammates during 4th quarter of 91' Finals:

Don't leave Michael all alone here.. it's not time YET..

Pippen's stats during 96-98' playoffs - 17 on 40.8%[/COLOR]