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    GIVEN NOT EARNED ripthekik's Avatar
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    Default Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    I got this from reddit:

    Even with Dwight's post game's recent resurgence, it's still plain as day that posting him up is a bad play. Among the plethora of evidence that show this, here's one that really sticks out. His PPP (Points Per Possession) on post-ups is still only 0.75 (source: Synergy). The Rockets' post-ups as a team are also 0.75, which is not surprising considering that Howard accounts for 78% of Houston's post up plays. What you might find surprising is that Houston's opponents score 0.84 PPP on post-ups. That's right, the very team who's talking about posting up more is actually much worse at it than the teams it defends against! Maybe Howard should worry less about posting up and more about defending it. For comparison, Andrew Bogut, a player known for anything but inside dominance, scores 0.88 PPP.
    In fact, the Rockets' offense is significantly better than their opponents' in every type of play (0.96 vs 0.87), except post-ups and isolations (0.78 vs 0.83). Unfortunately, these types of plays combine for 22% of their possessions.

    A lot of other post players have much better post-ups: Hibbert (.85), Love (0.91), David Lee (0.95) to name a few.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    You're great at using stats selectively.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by plowking
    You're great at using stats selectively.
    What else do you need? Watch the games. He's still horrible at posting up. Points per possession is a simple enough stat that tells the story perfectly. It's funny when the opposing center scores more per post-up than he does

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ripthekik
    What else do you need? Watch the games. He's still horrible at posting up. Points per possession is a simple enough stat that tells the story perfectly. It's funny when the opposing center scores more per post-up than he does
    I'm talking about your whole shtick.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    His moves are fine his turn over rate isn't.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread
    Hahaha boom! You cant have it both ways rip

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread
    Thanks for bringing Lebron into this again. And wtf? Go back and read my posts, my statement was that he has the ugliest post game out of all the greats. Where did I ignore any stats or even refer to them? Stats will say he is good around the post because that's where he cherry picks his baskets.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread
    holy fvck

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoTM
    His moves are fine his turn over rate isn't.
    He doesnt know how to seal his man off and establish position. He travels (uncalled) on most attempts due to his bad footwork. He only has about 3 moves that he uses consistently, and those moves are not very effective.


    He never shows any counter moves.

    You can tell he gets the ball and he just decides he's going to throw up a certain shot and execute a certain move, regardless of what the defense is doing and if thats the smart thing to do.

    He's just not gifted offensively.

    Rockets are holding themselves back by appeasing his ego. Why give Dwight post ups when he averages BELOW THE LEAGUE AVERAGE in points per possession down there?

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    This isn't new but it's true. Makes me appreciate Bogut that much more too.

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollsmasher
    Weird, I could swear that you completly dismissed the same stats source in the LeBron thread
    Time to log off rip

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    Default Re: Dwight is still terrible at posting up.

    dwight literally has no fanbase, every forum i know clowns that fool repeatedly

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