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    10. Kobe Bryant vs 2004 Spurs (94.1 DEF RATING)



    42 points, 15 for 27, 10-13 FT, 6 rebs, 5 assists 36.1 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjr2kNQVbXg

    9. Shaquille O'Neal vs 2001 Kings (99.6 DEF RATING)




    43 points, 18 for 26, 7 for 13 FT, 20 rebounds, 3 blocks 37.1 GameScore

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    8. Anfernee Hardaway vs 1997 Heat (100.6 DEF Rating)



    41 points, 12 for 23, 4 for 8 3pts, 7 rebs, 3 blocks, 38.1 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1vefSacsik


    7. Shaquille O'Neal vs 2001 Kings (99.6 DEF RATING)



    44 points, 17 for 32, 10-19 FT, 21 rebounds, 7 blocks, 40.0 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b63E_mNpAg


    6. Tim Duncan vs 2003 Nets (98.1 DEF RATING)



    32 points, 11 for 17, 10-14 FT, 20 rebounds, 6 assists, 7 blocks, 40.8 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWqsbANx6g


    5. Dirk Nowitzki vs 2001 Spurs (98.0 DEF RATING)




    42 points, 14 for 24, 14-18 FT, 18 rebounds, 6 steals, 41.3 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5qjSOCxVc


    4. Michael Jordan vs 1993 Knicks (99.7 DEF RATING)




    54 points, 18 for 30, 6-9 3pt, 12-14 FT, 6 rebs 41.3 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoVMIZWS_-A

    3. Paul Pierce vs 2002 76ers (100.3 DEF RATING)




    46 points, 16 for 25, 8-10 3pt, 6 assists 41.6 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_gdjB8boaI

    2. Kobe Bryant vs 2001 Kings (99.6 DEF RATING)




    48 pts, 15 for 29, 17-19 FT, 16 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals 43.3 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpArN4LbTI0

    1. Vince Carter vs 2001 76ers (98.9 DEF RATING)



    50 pts, 19 for 29, 9-13 from 3, 6 rebs, 7 assists, 4 blocks 46.8 GameScore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5qm5wVj0U0

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Looks like i have a new program for the evening.
    Thanks for posting.

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    nice

    What about Jordan's 63 vs Cs in 1986?

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    nice

    What about Jordan's 63 vs Cs in 1986?
    Def Rtg: 102.6 is above the admittedly arbitrary cutoff of 100.6 ( I was thinking 100 or less at first, but Pierce was so close and Penny was so close to Pierce after that)

    According to wikipedia it would #1 @ 48.6 though (#17 on the list)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    Def Rtg: 102.6 is above the admittedly arbitrary cutoff of 100.6 ( I was thinking 100 or less at first, but Pierce was so close and Penny was so close to Pierce after that)

    According to wikipedia it would #1 @ 48.6 though (#17 on the list)
    Oh OK makes sense

    I dont get why Kobe's 45/10 game vs 01 Spurs is such a low gamescore though

    What is interesting is that those 2 Shaq performances were back to back

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    Oh OK makes sense

    I dont get why Kobe's 45/10 game vs 01 Spurs is such a low gamescore though

    What is interesting is that those 2 Shaq performances were back to back
    Only 6 FTM and 1 3PM for Kobe in that game. All of these other games have some sort of incredible 3 pt shooting, rebounding or FTs making to go with a high scoring total.

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    Def Rtg: 102.6 is above the admittedly arbitrary cutoff of 100.6 ( I was thinking 100 or less at first, but Pierce was so close and Penny was so close to Pierce after that)

    According to wikipedia it would #1 @ 48.6 though (#17 on the list)
    You agree with the list and method of ranking (gamescore)? Seems slightly arbitrary. How does it work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave3
    You agree with the list and method of ranking (gamescore)? Seems slightly arbitrary. How does it work?
    GameScore is basically the one game equivalent of PER.

    (Points x 1.0) + (FGM x 0.4) + (FGA x -0.7) + ((FTA-FTM) x -0.4) + (OREB x 0.7) + (DREB x 0.3) + (STL x 1.0) + (AST x 0.7) + (BLK x 0.7) + (PF x -0.4) + (TO x -1.0)
    I chose it to rank the players just because it gave me a quick way to do so. Given the context of the games I'd 2004 Kobe game higher as well as Duncan's game. Kobe for playing against a better D than the other 9 and Duncan for his game being in the Finals. I'd move Dirk's down a bit considering that his team lost.

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Also it would probably be better if GameScore didn't count blocks and steals. Getting more blocks and steals against a great defense doesn't mean anything more than getting blocks and steals against a weak defense.

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Lebron James vs 2008-09 Magic (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Averaged:
    39 PPG @ 49% FG
    8 RPG
    8 APG

    Game 1 - 49 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists... 20 of 30 shooting (67%)

    Game 2 - 35 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists...

    Game 3 - 41 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists...

    Game 4 - 44 points, 12 rebounds, 7 assists...

    Game 5 - 37 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists...

    Lebron James vs 2007-08 Celtics (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Game 7 - 45 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds...







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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Lebron James vs 2008-09 Magic (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Averaged:
    39 PPG @ 49% FG
    8 RPG
    8 APG

    Game 1 - 49 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists... 20 of 30 shooting (67%)

    Game 2 - 35 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists...

    Game 3 - 41 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists...

    Game 4 - 44 points, 12 rebounds, 7 assists...

    Game 5 - 37 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists...

    Lebron James vs 2007-08 Celtics (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Game 7 - 45 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds...






    09 Magic = 101.9 doesn't qualify

    08 Celtcs = 98.9 qualifies but LeBron's best game only netted a 32.8 GameScore

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Lebron James vs 2008-09 Magic (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Averaged:
    39 PPG @ 49% FG
    8 RPG
    8 APG

    Game 1 - 49 points, 6 rebounds, 8 assists... 20 of 30 shooting (67%)

    Game 2 - 35 points, 4 rebounds, 5 assists...

    Game 3 - 41 points, 7 rebounds, 9 assists...

    Game 4 - 44 points, 12 rebounds, 7 assists...

    Game 5 - 37 points, 14 rebounds, 12 assists...

    Lebron James vs 2007-08 Celtics (#1 DEF RATING in the League)

    Game 7 - 45 points, 6 assists, 5 rebounds...






    and his team got hammered LOL. wasn't even close to winning it. stat padding does not count

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by Yao Ming's Foot
    GameScore is basically the one game equivalent of PER.



    I chose it to rank the players just because it gave me a quick way to do so. Given the context of the games I'd 2004 Kobe game higher as well as Duncan's game. Kobe for playing against a better D than the other 9 and Duncan for his game being in the Finals. I'd move Dirk's down a bit considering that his team lost.
    So you see this criteria as pretty solid other than the fact that the gamescore doesn't take competition into account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightfall88
    and his team got hammered LOL. wasn't even close to winning it. stat padding does not count
    That series went to game 7 n wasnt a easy win for the celtics

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    Default Re: Top 10 playoff game performance against elite defenses since 1985...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave3
    So you see this criteria as pretty solid other than the fact that the gamescore doesn't take competition into account?
    It also treats all overtime stats the same as a normal game which overrates them a bit.

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