Ben Wallace: Most underrated player of all time?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

- 4 time DPOY, one of the greatest if not the greatest defensive players of all time.

- Best player on title team

- I would take prime Ben Wallace over any center playing right now, comfortably.

If he was as good offensively as he was defensively and as bad defensively as he was offensively, I feel like he would be rated MUCH higher. Heck, some people don't even think he's a HoFer....meanwhile Carmelo Anthony (worse player) types are HOF locks...thoughts?

If you disagree, who do you think is the most underrated and why?

[andremiller07]

Andre Miller

[Prime_Shaq]

Could hold his own against peak Shaq

[UK2K]

Guy became the face of the league, and he could barely hit a lay up.

[T_L_P]

Andre Miller

Eh, good player on a bad team, maybe the #2 on a title team at his absolute peak (and I'd still be skeptical).

I'm a huge Miller fan too (PGs who can post up >), but he's not really in the Wallace class in terms of impact, and you rarely see Big Ben's name brought up at all.

It's either him or Moncrief (how he's not in the HoF is a joke). Top 5-6 defensive player ever imo along with Russell, Hakeem, Duncan, Garnett and Robinson.

[KNOW1EDGE]

I think Ben Wallace is rated just fine.
An absolutely great defensive player and an absolutely terrible offensive player.

He's like a Dennis Rodman of the 2000s

[T_L_P]

I think Ben Wallace is rated just fine.
An absolutely great defensive player and an absolutely terrible offensive player.

Pretty much DeAndre Jordan but better.

A top 5-10 defensive player ever cannot be compared to someone who's barely a top 10 defensive player right now.

[Al Thornton]

I think Ben Wallace is rated just fine.
An absolutely great defensive player and an absolutely terrible offensive player.

He's like a Dennis Rodman of the 2000s

neither dennis or deandre play anything like him

u are extremely dumb

[KNOW1EDGE]

A top 5-10 defensive player ever cannot be compared to someone who's barely a top 10 defensive player right now.

See my edit.

But they are def comparable.

Both centers.
Both a terrible liability on offense.
Both great on defense. (Although Ben was way better)

I loved watching Ben Wallace play, but I would take a handful of current big men over Ben Wallace.

[KNOW1EDGE]

neither dennis or deandre play anything like him

u are extremely dumb

Your rather dull or delusional if you can't see the similaritites in their games.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Ben Wallace wasn't really a liability on offense. Great offensive rebounder and super underrated passer. Didn't make many mistakes. Sure you would never run your offense through him and he couldn't shoot fts, but you never had to run your offense through him and he rarely went to the line. Peak FTA was 4.1, good enough for 59th in the NBA that year. Tied with 36 year old Reggie Miller and backup Sonics PG, Antonio Daniels.

When I think of liability, I think net negative and Ben wasn't that on offense. While he was on the Pistons, at least.

I actually think his defense was a little bit overrated. Better weakside than anything else, although still a great overall defender. Just wouldn't put him with someone like Russell or Hakeem. Not entirely convinced he was much better than peak Dwight as a defender.

[bigkingsfan]

He was basically done when he left Detroit.

[Reggie43]

Closer to being overrated rather than under. He played on teams that suited his style of play and covered up his weaknesses. Despite the accolades he was obviously behind the likes of olajuwon, robinson, deke, mourning, ewing, duncan and others defensively because of his height (6'7")

[RoseCity07]

I'll remember him for blocking prime Shaq on a dunk. He also made Kobe cry as Detroit beat the sh*t out of the Kobe Shaq Lakers in the Finals.

[TAZORAC]

- 4 time DPOY, one of the greatest if not the greatest defensive players of all time.

- Best player on title team

- I would take prime Ben Wallace over any center playing right now, comfortably.

If he was as good offensively as he was defensively and as bad defensively as he was offensively, I feel like he would be rated MUCH higher. Heck, some people don't even think he's a HoFer....meanwhile Carmelo Anthony (worse player) types are HOF locks...thoughts?

If you disagree, who do you think is the most underrated and why?

He wasn't the best player on the team, and prime Ben Wallace isn't anywhere as good as Anthony Davis, Howard, Lopez, Aldridge, Cousins.