Knicks trying to acquire OJ Mayo to send to Denver in Melo Trade..

[DStebb716]

The Knicks are NOT trading both Gallo and Chandler. It's only going to be one of the two so stop including both in trades.

This.

[DStebb716]

You're out of your mind if you think Memphis is gonna do a straight up Mayo for Douglas swap. Mayo has way more value than that. I'd say it'd probably be Chandler+Douglas for Mayo and then Mayo + Gallo + (maybe Fields) + Curry expirer + 1st pick (via a trade using Randolph) to Denver for Melo. Maybe a few things switched, but it'll probably look very similar to that.

Mayo doesn't actually have much value. I never said Douglas for Mayo straight up, but Gallo to Memphis would have to mean Memphis giving up a whole hell of a lot more than just Mayo.

[New York Knicks]

The Knicks are NOT trading both Gallo and Chandler. It's only going to be one of the two so stop including both in trades.

Then you can kiss Melo goodbye.

[Scoooter]

Giving up Gallo and Chandler and Fields and Toney Douglas and Eddy Curry's contract and a draft pick, all in an effort to get Melo is insane. Walsh should be fired if does something that stupid. Amar'e, Melo, Felton and no one else isn't a good team.

[New York Knicks]

Mayo doesn't actually have much value. I never said Douglas for Mayo straight up, but Gallo to Memphis would have to mean Memphis giving up a whole hell of a lot more than just Mayo.

You actually think Gallinari's a better player than Mayo? Doesn't matter anyway because in my scenario Chandler goes to Memphis and Gallinari goes to Denver with Mayo. I'd trade Douglas/Gallinari/Chandler/Fields/Randolph for Melo in a heartbeat.

[Rekindled]

denver, if we give u Gallo(or chandler) + Mayo + our 2014 pick and take back Birdman's contract (or minus pick and take back al 's contract).

would u do the deal?

[DStebb716]

You actually think Gallinari's a better player than Mayo? Doesn't matter anyway because in my scenario Chandler goes to Memphis and Gallinari goes to Denver with Mayo. I'd trade Douglas/Gallinari/Chandler/Fields/Randolph for Melo in a heartbeat.

Well you better hope Andy Rautins is ready to play a role on an NBA team. The Knicks would be stupid to give up that much, it's more of a risk to do that trade than it is to just not do a trade and hope Melo comes as a FA.

And of course Gallo is a better player than Mayo, he's proved that already.

[New York Knicks]

Giving up Gallo and Chandler and Fields and Toney Douglas and Eddy Curry's contract and a draft pick, all in an effort to Melo is insane. Walsh should be fired if does something that stupid. Amar'e, Melo, Felton and no one else isn't a good team.

This team IS just Felton/Amare and nobody else good. Chandler is pretty much a catch-and-shoot player on offense and looks completely retarded trying to handle the ball. He looks smooth when he doesn't have too much responsibilities on offense. But if you ask him to start creating off the dribble, we're gonna lose a ton of games. Gallinari has a varied skillset and looks promising, but we might have to wait a while and for all we know he never puts it all together. Fields is GREAT for a 2nd rounder. But come on now, he's not an untouchable player. Douglas is a good hustle guy. But on a good team he should be the 9th or 10th guy off the bench, not the 6th man. The only reason NOT to make the trade is if we know Melo will absolutely enter free agency. But what if at the last moment he signs off on that NJ deal before the deadline?

[DStebb716]

denver, if we give u Gallo(or chandler) + Mayo + our 2014 pick and take back Birdman's contract (or minus pick and take back al 's contract).

would u do the deal?

That'd be great.

I think the BEST case scenario (that is also realistic) is for NY to give up Gallo, a first rounder, Randolph, Douglas, Curry's contract in order to get Melo.

[New York Knicks]

Well you better hope Andy Rautins is ready to play a role on an NBA team. The Knicks would be stupid to give up that much, it's more of a risk to do that trade than it is to just not do a trade and hope Melo comes as a FA.

Donnie can easily just pick up teams from the D-League to fill the missing spots. And D'Antoni likes to run a short rotation anyway.

Felton
Walker
Melo
Amare
Turiaf

Williams
Mozgov

And then try to make a move for a backup PG or sign somebody like Rafer Alston or somebody to play 10 minutes a game. He plays starters heavy minutes anyway.

And of course Gallo is a better player than Mayo, he's proved that already.

[Jasper]

Wish someone would call up the Bucks and ask if they could get Redd and Skiles for 50% on the dollar

[Scoooter]

This team IS just Felton/Amare and nobody else good. Chandler is pretty much a catch-and-shoot player on offense and looks completely retarded trying to handle the ball. He looks smooth when he doesn't have too much responsibilities on offense. But if you ask him to start creating off the dribble, we're gonna lose a ton of games. Gallinari has a varied skillset and looks promising, but we might have to wait a while and for all we know he never puts it all together. Fields is GREAT for a 2nd rounder. But come on now, he's not an untouchable player. Douglas is a good hustle guy. But on a good team he should be the 9th or 10th guy off the bench, not the 6th man. The only reason NOT to make the trade is if we know Melo will absolutely enter free agency. But what if at the last moment he signs off on that NJ deal before the deadline?

Then good luck to him in Jersey. Knicks need defense and rebounding. They need a center, period. Melo would be nice, but he's hardly going to put them "over-the-hump" - assuming they're currently nearing the hump as it is. He isn't LeBron.

Melo would be great. I'd trade Wilson Chandler for him. Throw in Curry and maybe Toney Douglas or something.

[DStebb716]

This team IS just Felton/Amare and nobody else good. Chandler is pretty much a catch-and-shoot player on offense and looks completely retarded trying to handle the ball. He looks smooth when he doesn't have too much responsibilities on offense. But if you ask him to start creating off the dribble, we're gonna lose a ton of games. Gallinari has a varied skillset and looks promising, but we might have to wait a while and for all we know he never puts it all together. Fields is GREAT for a 2nd rounder. But come on now, he's not an untouchable player. Douglas is a good hustle guy. But on a good team he should be the 9th or 10th guy off the bench, not the 6th man. The only reason NOT to make the trade is if we know Melo will absolutely enter free agency. But what if at the last moment he signs off on that NJ deal before the deadline?

I'm beginning to think that you're truly a closet Celtics fan. Felton and Amar'e with nobody else good? Fields is one of the most well rounded rookies to play in a while (doesn't do anything GREAT, but does everything good). Chandler has been a pretty good rebounder, and his shooting has improved a lot this year. He has been very consistent. Gallo is one of the best shooters in the game, and he is getting better and better at driving and finishing. Shawne Williams is a solid shooter, Walker is not consistent, but does well from time to time. There is enough talent on this team right now to get out of the first round of the playoffs (I think they can beat the Bulls or Hawks in a 7 game series).

[New York Knicks]

Then good luck to him in Jersey. Knicks need defense and rebounding. They need a center, period. Melo would be nice, but he's hardly going to put them "over-the-hump" - assuming they're currently nearing the hump as it is. He isn't LeBron.

Melo would be great. I'd trade Wilson Chandler for him. Throw in Curry and maybe Toney Douglas or something.

Obviously as a Knick fan, I'd rather the team give up less than more. But that's not realistic. I know people don't agree, but Melo does fill a need. When the offense gets stagnant, you need a guy to throw it to for that automatic basket and as much as we'd all like to believe that, Amar'e doesn't provide that on a nightly basis. Melo, offensively is on par with guys like Kobe, Roy, and Pierce in being able to create shots. Last night for example, when the pick-and-roll was blocked we were looking to F'n Wilson Chandler to create offense from the perimeter off the dribble. And he couldn't dribble around a statue.

[DStebb716]

Donnie can easily just pick up teams from the D-League to fill the missing spots. And D'Antoni likes to run a short rotation anyway.

Felton
Walker
Melo
Amare
Turiaf

Williams
Mozgov

And then try to make a move for a backup PG or sign somebody like Rafer Alston or somebody to play 10 minutes a game. He plays starters heavy minutes anyway.

Walker is NOT starter material. That would leave a huge hole at the 2. The 5 position is already a whole with what it is, add another hole to the lineup and you can't win. Sure the Heat can do it, but they have 2 of the top 5 players in the league, and 1 guy that's top 10 or 15.