Rank in order on who had better first two seasons.

[Real14]

From 04-05, Lebron, Melo, and Wade.

Here's mines in order..

1. Melo
2. Wade
3. Lebron

What's your order ISH?

[Smoke117]

lol desperate

And Carmelo above Wade? Flash was significantly better than Melo in their 2nd seasons.

[aj1987]

From 04-05, Lebron, Melo, and Wade.

Here's mines in order..

1. Melo
2. Wade
3. Lebron

What's your order ISH?

FOH, moron.

Wade - 21/5/6/2/1 on 55% TS
LeBron - 24/6/7/2/1 on 52% TS
Melo - 21/6/3/1/1 on 52% TS

Wade - 1x All-Star, All-NBA 2nd Team, and All-Def 2nd. Hit two gamewinners in his rookie season and carrier the Heat to 7 games against the defending champs. If he wasn't injured, Miami could've won a title. 23/5/6/1/1 on 55% TS. Averaged 27/6/7/2/1 on 56% TS in the '05 PO's. 21/4/6/1/1 on 56% TS in his rookie season against the 61 win Pacers.

LeBron - 1x All-Star and All-NBA 2nd Team. Missed the PO's.

Melo - 17/7/2/1 on 46% TS and got embarrassed in the PO's. Played like complete horse shit.

1. Wade


2. LeBron




















3. Melo

[Mr Feeny]

This can't possible be serious. It's lebron, Wade, then Carmelo.

[aj1987]

This can't possible be serious. It's lebron, Wade, then Carmelo.

LeBron wasn't even close to being better than Wade in their first two seasons. Wade was more efficient and a better scorer. Not to mention clutch AF and a significantly better defender.

[Mr Feeny]

LeBron wasn't even close to being better than Wade in their first two seasons. Wade was more efficient and a better scorer. Not to mention clutch AF and a significantly better defender.

How can you possibly say that with a straight face?

Wade was great in 2005 and was close to Lebron - maybe even his equal. Lebron was better in 2004 and over the two year stretch, very few people are going to agree with you that Wade was better. Moreover, nobody is going to find it laughable that Lebron was better than Wade in 2004 and 2005 which you think it is.

[Smoke117]

How can you possibly say that with a straight face?

Wade was great in 2005 and was close to Lebron - maybe even his equal. Lebron was better in 2004 and over the two year stretch, very few people are going to agree with you that Wade was better. Moreover, nobody is going to find it laughable that Lebron was better than Wade in 2004 and 2005 which you think it is.

No other moronic Lebron stans would agree you mean...any objective person can easily see Wade was better than Lebron in their first two seasons. It's not enough Lebron is better all time and a top 10 player...you have to manufacture nonsense like this too? Bitch.

[Mr Feeny]

No other moronic Lebron stans would agree you mean...any objective person can easily see Wade was better than Lebron in their first two seasons. It's not enough Lebron is better all time and a top 10 player...you have to manufacture nonsense like this too? Bitch.

You cant possibly believe that.
Lebron was rookie of the year and only the 3rd man in history to average 20,5,5 in his rookie year (Jordan and Oscar ). He was inefficient because he was on a crap team and faced double teams. As an unpolished product, he didn't start of well.
In his second year, he averaged 25 ppg, 7 rpg and 7 apg on 47%fg.

If you think Wade was better during both years that's fine. It's certainly not the consensus. And I wouldn't advise you to go around calling everyone who disagrees with you a moronic lebron stan.

[aj1987]

How can you possibly say that with a straight face?

Wade was great in 2005 and was close to Lebron - maybe even his equal. Lebron was better in 2004 and over the two year stretch, very few people are going to agree with you that Wade was better. Moreover, nobody is going to find it laughable that Lebron was better than Wade in 2004 and 2005 which you think it is.

Lets ignore the fact that Wade actually made the PO's in his first two seasons and had series of 26/6/9/2/1 on 58%, 31/7/8/1/2 on 60%, and 26/5/4/2/1 on 52%. Wade was a straight up better scorer than LeBron in his first two seasons. A better midrange and post player. Dude had his scoring arsenal from his rookie season, while LeBron didn't even develop a proper post game until '12. Wade was also an equal passer. Defense? Wade by a mile. Dude was one of the best defenders in the league and made the All-Def 2nd team, while LeBron wasn't an elite defender until his 4th season.

He was inefficient because he was on a crap team and faced double teams. As an unpolished product, he didn't start of well.

This pretty much confirms that you didn't watch '04 and '05 LeBron.

[Mr Feeny]

Lets ignore the fact that Wade actually made the PO's in his first two seasons and had series of 26/6/9/2/1 on 58%, 31/7/8/1/2 on 60%, and 26/5/4/2/1 on 52%. Wade was a straight up better scorer than LeBron in his first two seasons. A better midrange and post player. Dude had his scoring arsenal from his rookie season, while LeBron didn't even develop a proper post game until '12. Wade was also an equal passer. Defense? Wade by a mile. Dude was one of the best defenders in the league and made the All-Def 2nd team, while LeBron wasn't an elite defender until his 4th season.

Wade made the playoffs because he had better teams. I remember him hitting the game winner (a floater against the hornets) but he wasn't the standout star if that team. Odom was there along with several other big time players.

Then Shaq came along. And while 2006 Shaq was a shell of his former self, he was still dominant in 2005 and had a huge case for mvp. Wade played well against the Wizards and great against Detroit. But it's not fair to make an anaolgy given the discrepancy in talent in both teams.

Lebron had a Paul Silas and then a Mike brown team. Playing with donyel Marshall is drastically different from playing with Shaq.

As far as defense goes,that's also unfair. Perimeter olayers are more wary of driving when there's a Shaq behind you guarding the big post. Lebron had Z behind him. Or drew gooden.

[Mr Feeny]

This pretty much confirms that you didn't watch '04 and '05 LeBron.

Alright eff off. If you're here to discuss basketball properly, that's fine. It's been 13 years but I was watching lebron since the McDonald's game in 2003. If you weren't that's fine.
Don't melt down and snarkly insinuate that someone didn't watch a player because he disagrees with you about something.

I've been respectful with you throughout this. Maintain decorum.

[Papaya Petee]

...

1.) Wade

2.) LeBron





3.) Melo

Wade in his first season led his team to the playoffs, hit a game winner in the first round and led his team to the 2nd round where they won 2 games against the number one seed. LeBron missed the playoffs and Carmelo got murked in the first round

Wade in his second season averaged 24\7\6\2\1 in the regular season and followed that up by a 27\7\6\2\1 post season where without Shaq he swept the Wizards in the second round averaging 31\8\7 and would have been in the finals if not for a freak injury up 3-2 on the Pistons.

LeBron James won ROY his first season (missed the playoffs) and averaged 27\7\7 in his second season as a 19 year old. while Carmelo Anthony once again got murked in the first round and pretty much averaged the same numbers as his rookie year.

This isn't even close really. Carmelo has no argument.

[Sarcastic]

Rookie year:
1 Melo
2 Lebron
3 Wade

2nd year:
1 Lebron
2 Wade
3 Melo

Averages:
Lebron 1.5
Melo 2
Wade 2.5

[Papaya Petee]

Rookie year:
1 Melo
2 Lebron
3 Wade

2nd year:
1 Lebron
2 Wade
3 Melo

Averages:
Lebron 1.5
Melo 2
Wade 2.5

So Wade in his second season led a team to a 59-23 record, and was up 3-2 in the ECF vs the defending champs until his injury, wasn't better than LeBron who missed the playoffs?

FFS people Wade his 2nd year was averaging 27\7\6\2\1 in the playoffs while LeBron was on his couch watching.

[Sarcastic]

So Wade in his second season led a team to a 59-23 record, and was up 3-2 in the ECF vs the defending champs until his injury, wasn't better than LeBron who missed the playoffs?

FFS people Wade his 2nd year was averaging 27\7\6\2\1 in the playoffs while LeBron was on his couch watching.

Lebron put up 27/7/7 for the season. He was easily the best. Wade played with prime Shaq that year, who should've been MVP.