So, Kobe's 2015 v.s. MJ's 2002, YMF ... where you @

[SamuraiSWISH]

Who was better?

Kobe - 35 games

22.3 ppg
37%
5.6 apg
5.7 rpg
81% FT
29% 3PT

Best Games:

44 pts (15-34) @ Golden State
31 pts (11-24), 12 ast, 11 reb v.s. Toronto
19 pts (7-14), 17 ast (career high), 6 reb v.s. Cleveland

MJ - 60 games
Wizards 37-45

22.9 ppg
42%
5.2 apg
5.7 rpg
79% FT
19% 3PT

Best Games:

45 pts, 10 reb, 7 ast in 39 min v.s. New Jersey (#1 Def)
51 pts (oldest to score 50) 21-38 v.s. Charlotte
41 pts (17-30, game winner), 7 ast, 4 reb @ Phoenix (On prime Marion)

Anyone know the Lakers 2015 record when Kobe was playing? Who was better?

[navy]

Both suck.

[Mr. Jabbar]

but did mj tore his achilles in 2000?

[SamuraiSWISH]

but did mj tore his achilles in 2000?

No, he stayed retired for 3 season. Got fat and out of shape. Atrophy of skills. Probably a lot worse than staying in relative basketball shape, rehabilitating an injury then getting back out there. Nique in '93 played light years better off an achilles tear than Kobe did ... what's your point?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Was Jordan in the top 20 worst defensive players in the league? If not, I'll give him the nod

[SamuraiSWISH]

Was Jordan in the top 20 worst defensive players in the league? If not, I'll give him the nod

Not even close. MJ was better offensively as well in a more depressed offensive era. And also had more impact on winning basketball games as his team's bets player. Which is the most important thing. Both squads had a similar lack of talent.

[Mr. Jabbar]

what's your point?

you sound too sure for someone who is just assuming a lot of factors. kobe had way more mileage on him when it happened, it could have affected him more than jordan being retired

[JT123]

[B]Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

[SamuraiSWISH]

you sound too sure for someone who is just assuming a lot of factors. kobe had way more mileage on him when it happened, it could have affected him more than jordan being retired

Mileage isn't as important as age, and conditioning. MPG isn't indicative of the level of wear and tear.

[Mr. Jabbar]

[QUOTE=JT123][B]Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:
• 124th in field goal percentage (third-worst among qualified players)
• 103rd in 3-point percentage (fifth-worst)
• 74th in player efficiency rating
• 361st in win shares

Kobe's 0.1 win shares are the fewest of the 73 players to play at least 1,200 minutes this season.


Based on the above evidence I would have to say that current Kobe doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Wizards MJ

Don't forget that he's the 16th worst defender in the league (DRPM):

[Magic 32]

Anyone know the Lakers 2015 record when Kobe was playing? Who was better?

Here is a better question.

Who cares?

[BigBoss]

Kobe ranks among the worst players in the league this season in a number of categories:
• 124th in field goal percentage (third-worst among qualified players)
• 103rd in 3-point percentage (fifth-worst)
• 74th in player efficiency rating
• 361st in win shares

Kobe's 0.1 win shares are the fewest of the 73 players to play at least 1,200 minutes this season.


Based on the above evidence I would have to say that current Kobe doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Wizards MJ

[AirBourne92]

Mileage isn't as important as age, and conditioning. MPG isn't indicative of the level of wear and tear.

Complete opposite actually. Mileage and wear and tear is the prime factor in athletic decline.

Also re-conditioning can happen within a couple of months---muscle memory

[Prometheus]

Obviously Jordan was better.

It only makes sense for Kobe fans to initiate the comparisons. Jordan fans should be comfortable with how much better he was in every way to not even consider it.