How bad is Rose, Stats wise?

[tamaraw08]

Every stat category has been down compared to his career stats EXCEPT turnovers which is waay high.
91th in the league in assist to turnover ratio 1.52.
34th in assists but only bec he plays a ton of mins. MIssed the top 50 in assists/game per 48 mins.
PF Blake Giffin and ball hogs, KObe, Wade, Harden has more assist/game than him, even the old Mo Williams.
The sooner he realize that he is NOT the best player in his team, that he needs to take a back seat and feed Pau and Butler the ball, the better for the Bulls.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

His shooting numbers are bad (.408/.299/.809) but he's posting the same usage rate as his MVP season...and he's picking up just short of 5 assists a game.

His raw per game numbers (18.6/3.2/4.9) are decent but I don't think that he's contributing much of anything this season, at least based on what I've seen of his stats. The Bulls as a team have posted a 105.2/102.4 OFF/DEF EFF line so far this season, Rose's personal line is 98/109.

We'll have to wait and see if he can rediscover his MVP form but the stats paint an ugly picture.

[gts]

what're his win loss numbers? they're the only ones that matter

context matters of course but he's had enough talent around him for his career that wins and losses can be used as a gauge

[Practice?]

Bad enough to not make the all star team.

[Marchesk]

Waiting for the eye test.

[Dengness9]

The two things Derrick needs to do:

1) set his teammates up more. He can't finish like he use to but he is still freakish getting into the paint and drawing multiple defenders. Time to turn those plays into assists on a consistent basis.

2) stop taking a 3pt shot to start the game. It never goes in and sets an unnecessary tone for the rest of the game. Turn that first shot into a mid range j or floater and he'll make that first bucket 50% of the time if not more.

[ArbitraryWater]

what're his win loss numbers? they're the only ones that matter

context matters of course but he's had enough talent around him for his career that wins and losses can be used as a gauge

dat Kobetard mentality

[RoundMoundOfReb]

what're his win loss numbers? they're the only ones that matter

context matters of course but he's had enough talent around him for his career that wins and losses can be used as a gauge

They're the same as Doug Mcdermott and Tony Snell's

[Dengness9]

They're the same as Doug Mcdermott and Tony Snell's

What about E'Twaun Moore?

[tontoz]

In b4 "but..but.. intangibles".

[Dengness9]

The most important part of the regular season and playoffs are still to come.

50 games in, nothing has been decided.

[greatest-ever]

Well lets see 19 3 5 on 41 fg% 50 ts% 16 PER

He's pretty inefficient on volume that isn't even impressive, isnt getting assists as a point guard and below average defense or at best average.
Rose is nothing more than a slightly above average player at this point honestly. Def not an elite point guard.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Well lets see 19 3 5 on 41 fg% 50 ts% 16 PER

He's pretty inefficient on volume that isn't even impressive, isnt getting assists as a point guard and below average defense or at best average.
Rose is nothing more than a slightly above average player at this point honestly. Def not an elite point guard.

He's ranked 22nd among qualified PG's in PER, 54th in TS%, 21st in EWA, 51st in turnover ratio, 67th in assist ratio...slightly above average is kind relative to where his stats are.

[gts]

dat Kobetard mentality

compared to a box score watcher like you who clearly never watches a game I'll take that as a compliment

now quick go sign into one of your other accounts and pat yourself on the back for that mindless post of your's with some other mindless reply like rekt, ethered or topkek lol

while your at it make sure to rep yourself again, lord knows that's the only way you'll stay green

[greatest-ever]

He's ranked 22nd among qualified PG's in PER, 54th in TS%, 21st in EWA, 51st in turnover ratio, 67th in assist ratio...slightly above average is kind relative to where his stats are.

Being rated in the 50s or 60s in some of those categories you named isnt good.

Like i said he's a slightly above average player this season.