Is the Lebron vs Kobe debate pretty much settled?

[Gus Hemmingway]

pre-2016 also


ESPN

Michael Jordan
Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
LeBron James
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O

[TheCorporation]

pippen or bird would be my starting all time small forward if i was assembling a team

Yep. Just like the Cavs would be better than the Lakers, right?

Your opinion is worth nothing. Thank god you aren't a GM. Kobe was passed up a long time ago. Let it go. Accept it. Let it go.

[LAmbruh]

[QUOTE=Gus Hemmingway]


pre-2016 also


ESPN

Michael Jordan
Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
LeBron James
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O

[TheCorporation]

Kobe is a top 12 player but there he goes trying to squeeze into the top 10

[LAmbruh]

Kobe is a top 12 player but there he goes trying to squeeze into the top 10

Poor guy never made the reserves list, let alone the players ball




12be

[72-10]

Kobe is a top 12 player but there he goes trying to squeeze into the top 10

You're a moron. Who the fvck would put Kobe as low as 12? You really think Hakeem was better than Kobe?

Let's see your list.

[TheCorporation]

Poor guy never made the reserves list, let alone the players ball




12be

12be all day

[TheCorporation]

You're a moron. Who the fvck would put Kobe as low as 12? You really think Hakeem was better than Kobe?

Let's see your list.

Wow really? Someone just posted an ESPN list that had Kobe out of the top 10...How hard is it to understand?

He never had a season where he shot above .469
He never had a SINGLE playoff triple double (literally has zero)
Below league average clutch stats
6/24
1 MVP in 20 year...WHAT
2 Finals MVPs (not bad, but not amazing)
Missed the playoffs in his prime
Blew a 3-1 lead
Never had a memorable Finals series
Most missed shots in NBA history

Are we serious here???

Do we really need to add more to this dumpster fire named 12be? What's wrong with top 12 anyway sheesh...

[LAmbruh]

You're a moron. Who the fvck would put Kobe as low as 12? You really think Hakeem was better than Kobe?

Let's see your list.

over 70 users on ISH say he's outside top 10




ouch

[kennethgriffen]

pre-2016 also


ESPN

Michael Jordan
Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
LeBron James
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O’Neal
Hakeem Olajuwon


CBS Sports

Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Larry Bird
Shaquille O’Neal
Kobe Bryant

FOX Sports

Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwan

Sports Illustrated

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
LeBron James
Oscar Robertson
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Jerry West
Tim Duncan

AOL

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlin
Bill Russell
Shaquille O'neal
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Olajuwon

Britannica

Lebron James
Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Oscar Robinson
Bill Russell
Larry Bird
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Sporteology

Michael Jordan
Bill Russell
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Shaquille Oneal
Hakeem Olajuwan

news.com

Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Oscar Robertson

theroar.com

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Shaquille Oneal
Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant
Bill Russell

axs.com

Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Magic Johnson
Oscar Robertson
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille Oneal


*RealGM + Reddit + Insidehoops + every Bball Forum also

and yet every poll i see kobe wins


the media has been against kobe for a long time. its an agenda against him


and realgm bans every kobe fan... here all the polls are manipulated by your many alts


its all a big phoney narrative proven false by actual results/actual majority consensus opinion among fans/players/coaches

[TheCorporation]

and yet every poll i see kobe wins


the media has been against kobe for a long time. its an agenda against him


and realgm bans every kobe fan... here all the polls are manipulated


its all a big phoney narrative proven false by actual results/actual majority consensus opinion among fans/players/coaches

Wow really? Someone just posted an ESPN list that had Kobe out of the top 10...How hard is it to understand?

He never had a season where he shot above .469
He never had a SINGLE playoff triple double (literally has zero)
Below league average clutch stats
6/24
1 MVP in 20 year...WHAT
2 Finals MVPs (not bad, but not amazing)
Missed the playoffs in his prime
Blew a 3-1 lead
Never had a memorable Finals series
Most missed shots in NBA history

Are we serious here???

Do we really need to add more to this dumpster fire named 12be? What's wrong with top 12 anyway sheesh...

[72-10]

Which of these players are you putting ahead of Kobe?

Dr. J, Hakeem, Oscar, Duncan

[3ball]

2016 -

http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/sto...michael-jordan



2017 - http://www.espn.com/sportsnation/sto...es-kobe-bryant




2018 -
https://m.facebook.com/FirstTake/posts/1905404669519462

^^^^ there's your answer OP

the media is obviously in their own little bubble on this - they only talk to each other - and within their world, lebron is the best

the American public doesn't agree, most of which don't have time to watch much espn, so they aren't swayed by the media bubble narrative

The media is just going by stats, when Kobe was the better winner, which makes him better

I believe he won with less and was an automatic championship with just a regular star (Gasol), not an earth-shattering one (Wade).. Gasol was comparable to Bosh

[RealSkipBayless]

and yet every poll i see kobe wins


the media has been against kobe for a long time. its an agenda against him


and realgm bans every kobe fan... here all the polls are manipulated by your many alts


its all a big phoney narrative proven false by actual results/actual majority consensus opinion among fans/players/coaches

The lists from media outlets like ESPN and SI are often comprised from one person working for the network. Usually by someone that has never played hoops in their lives.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=436031

[scuzzy]

pre-2016 also


ESPN

Michael Jordan
Kareem-Abdul Jabbar
LeBron James
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O’Neal
Hakeem Olajuwon


CBS Sports

Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Larry Bird
Shaquille O’Neal
Kobe Bryant

FOX Sports

Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Larry Bird
Hakeem Olajuwan

Sports Illustrated

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
LeBron James
Oscar Robertson
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Jerry West
Tim Duncan

AOL

Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlin
Bill Russell
Shaquille O'neal
Tim Duncan
Hakeem Olajuwon

Britannica

Lebron James
Michael Jordan
Magic Johnson
Wilt Chamberlain
Oscar Robinson
Bill Russell
Larry Bird
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Kareem Abdul Jabbar

Sporteology

Michael Jordan
Bill Russell
Magic Johnson
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Larry Bird
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Shaquille Oneal
Hakeem Olajuwan

news.com

Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Shaquille Oneal
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Bill Russell
Wilt Chamberlain
Hakeem Olajuwon
Oscar Robertson

theroar.com

Michael Jordan
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Magic Johnson
Shaquille Oneal
Larry Bird
Kobe Bryant
Bill Russell

axs.com

Michael Jordan
Wilt Chamberlain
Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Lebron James
Magic Johnson
Oscar Robertson
Larry Bird
Bill Russell
Tim Duncan
Shaquille Oneal


*RealGM + Reddit + Insidehoops + every Bball Forum also

What makes these lists and overwhelming polls on NBA forums so conclusive is not just that Kobe isn't close to Lebron on anyone of them, but he's not even listed. Not above Shaq, above Duncan, above Magic, etc. Nowhere