If Lebron can guard 4s and 5s.................

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Why is david west averaging 19/9 with 50% shooting and roy hibbert 23/12 with 54% shooting and dont give that paul george bs wade is the one thats guarding him mostly when george plays bad.

LeBron James and Paul George
when guarding each other
Eastern Conference finals
James George*
Points 45 29
FG 18-31 10-13
Turnovers 8 1
Points per play 1.07 1.71
* George: 6-for-7, 16 points, zero TO in Game 2

All of his highlight is him blocking guards. Lebron is averaging 4 fouls per game in the series does Lebron fouling more equal better defense for bigs SMH LEBRON

[inclinerator]

except he shut down west when he was on him

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

except he shut down west when he was on him

That isnt shutting down thats knowing a man will beat u so u hope refs bail u out

[edrick]

Don't think too hard, Ham. It's not like Lebron was always on him or anything.

[Le Shaqtus]

Where does this come from that he can guard 4's and 5's? He can't.

[plowking]

He absolutely shits on West whenever he is on him.

He can't guard Paul George, but then again, is he supposed to be able to shut down every single player in the league? No. No one can. There is always someone that gives you problems.

[lebeast666]

So you guys want him to average triple double, defend 1-5, and play 45+ mins. Have you guys even played ball?

If he were to focus on defense all game and no offense then I bet he can do it pretty good.

[dbk123]

because he cant guard 3 people at once you dumb ****

[tmacattack33]

West did nothing at all when Lebron was on him.

[ballup]

It's genius because Lebron already knows that West will mimic flop him. Then, Lebron can use his superior athletics to quickly get up, receive a pass, and score an easy deuce. It's part of his super high BBIQ.

[TheFan]

It's genius because Lebron already knows that West will mimic flop him. Then, Lebron can use his superior athletics to quickly get up, receive a pass, and score an easy deuce. It's part of his super high BBIQ.

by the pic it seems like The Heat were the one playing defense.

[tazb]

Clearly didn't watch the last two games. He shut down West down the stretch in both games and will most likely keep doing it moving forward.

[Graviton]

Clearly didn't watch the last two games. He shut down West down the stretch in both games and will most likely keep doing it moving forward.

Problem is West isn't their issue, it's Hibbert and at times George driving. Lebron should guard Hibbert in the 4th while Bosh takes West, afterall according to Pauk Lebron can guard Centers, didn't you see him covering Pau Gasol?

[Kblaze8855]

Yes. He can. Which is not an opinion. its a fact. He can and has guarded many. Its not even rare. The Heat started Battier at the 4 often and Lebron is bigger. They play lineups with Lebron on bigmen...all the time.

That they could still produce doesnt mean he cant guard them and the logic in place to suggest it does has never been applied in the history of the game.

Especially here. Posting numbers of people he is often not guarding?

As if...that means he cant guard them or....hes trying and failing?

Its almost as if basketball isnt even being watched to reach these conclusions.

David West....a 2 time all star...who put up 17 a game in 33 minutes for the season...doing 19 a game in 38 minutes...is not noteworthy.

And Hibbert...a guy Lebron is rarely guarding...getting 23 a game on good shooting while getting 7 offensive rebounds a game for a few putbacks does not mean Lebron cant guard him either.

It means Hibbert is a good player...a large one...who has been finishing well in traffic. Mostly...not on Lebron.

Is he supposed to be on them every second? Both of them I guess? With stops on George and Lance....so we can act like hes individually responsible for any points scored by the 4 people he guards even if hes only on each for portions of the game depending on matchups and situation?

Lebron can guard virtually the entire NBA id say aside from maybe Bynum. And he could guard him too. I just wouldnt expect much.

Hes the size of Karl Malone.

He is as capable of guarding a bigman as most bigmen are.

Of course they will still score. Perhaps you didnt notice...but they score on eachother. When Lebron is scored on by a bigman...that means he cant guard bigmen....so....when a bigman scores on another big....does that mean that other big cant guard bigs?

Of course not. It means people score on their defenders. Especially good scorers.

Lebron can guard 4/5s. So could Pippen. And shawn Marion. Barkley guarded 2-5. So did Kevin Mchale. And Cliff Robinson. And rodman.

LJ/Zo still had good games vs the Bulls ,the Suns gave up points to everyone big or not, the Celtics got lit up by guards, forwards, and bigmen now and then, and Rodman had points dropped on him by Malone, Kemp, and much lesser bigmen and Jordan and Bird and much lesser swingmen.

Here is a duo of swingmen dropping 88 points on Scottie Pippens team:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRR3Jx8RvoI


What...can Scottie not guard small forwards?

Or are we gonna apply a little common sense to that situation?

Lebron being able to guard 95% of the planet doesnt mean hes gonna shut down every star on every possession and no other defender has ever been held to such a standard. Nobody else has such meager point totals held against him.

Talking about 18-20 points by bigmen hes nowhere near or guys who score on him 3 times in two games on the way to 21 points.

In the NBa stars score. They tend to score a bit more in the playoffs...often due to playing more minutes and being expected to carry the team in tough spots. Hibbert for example has played as many 40 minute games vs the Heat this series....as he has for the last 3 years combined. He plays 28 minutes a game. Of course his numbers shoot up when lineups tighten in the playoffs in a big series vs a team that plays small ball with Chris Bosh at the 5. Hes whoring them on the boards and getting whatever he wants.

Lebron is to stop him?

Then he hears about David wests numberS?

Or george?

Not like we couldnt expect that. Hes hearing about the less than spectacular point totals of guys he isnt defending now. Why would it stop?

Lebron is a roamer like many guys who can guard the entire league. Most guys like that are. He might be anywhere...on anyone. Hes not personally responsible for the entire opponents scoring output and 3 stars having a few 20 point nights says little of him.

It says this is the playoffs. Where you feed the key players the ball, play them 45 minutes if you must, and try to win.

Not....stop one guy on a team that has 3-4 options.

This isnt a team you take one guy from and they are helpless. There is nobody you just stick your bruce Bowen/rodman on and stick to the shooters.

Its a team. A good all around team.

Which is why nobody on it is scoring much. Surely not enough to get a great defender called out for allowing it.

At least not...any other great defender...ever.

I really do wish we had ISH 20-30 years ago to look back on. Id love to read a "Lol....I thought Michael Cooper was a good defender?!" topic when Andrew Toney drops 46 off the bench then compare it to topics on Lebron "allowing" 24 points to someone he wasnt even guarding or actually guarding someone who has 18 points nobody will ever have reason to mention again because nothing worth mentioning happened.

You want to hate on a guy getting lit up...be my guest. But find a guy who got lit up first.

Hibbert has been their best scorer and hes making like 3 of his 7-8 field goals a game off putbacks.

If this is worth hating I dont know what you guys would have done watching Mutombo have 50 points dropped on him or Parish give up 50 to Ewing in actual isolation situations.

Perhaps come away thinking they cant guard bigmen.

Because...you know...if someone scores points...that means you cant guard them.

Even if it isnt many points.

And you were guarding 3 other people too.

Thats where we are as fans.

[Vragrant]

Where does this come from that he can guard 4's and 5's? He can't.

Truth, but for some reason its become this meme that has gotten tagged on to the notion that he is the most unique player in NBA history. Over the last couple of seasons, since he's been with the Heat and they don't have a big man, its taken on a life of its own.

I've been hearing this mantra that he "can guard any position on the floor" for the last 2-3 seasons, especially in the media