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Old 11-12-2019, 05:51 AM   #1
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Exclamation [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

Celtics 8-1



Irving is what we knew he was, walked for sour milk and Boston improves



Isiaih? Nance and Clarkson still gettin us 23ppg



#7 seed Cavs already bouncing back like Pip in 94



meanwhile Bulls, Knicks and Magic stay rotting in lottery dreams



we coming...
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:33 AM   #2
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

Too big. Too strong. Juicy James size lives on.
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:45 AM   #3
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

Nance added that three-point shot to his game, he's a cool guy. He's looked better than Kuzma recently tbh. We drafted Wagner with that pick but traded him last season, he's been balling in Washington as well. LeGM made some terrible moves last season.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:02 PM   #4
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

It has worked out for sure. But at the time, Kyrie had such a high value and we should of gotten a lot more.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:40 PM   #5
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

Celtics still won that trade because IT was hurt badly. It just turned out to be of no consequence to either team in the long run. Just a move to 'keep on truckin''. Few trades are very meaningful in a vacuum.
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:06 PM   #6
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

False. IT turned into Kyrie turned into Kemba. We at the top
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:21 PM   #7
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Default Re: [Official] Cavs won IT trade pt. 4

The only potential argument is that it depends on how much money they made off of two years of having an All-Star, something that as a fan I don't care about. Ainge's logic was sound but the celtics lost the trade because they surrendered a lottery pick to rent a guy that made no difference to wins and losses. Didn't play in the ECF run and then lead the team to a disappointing second round gentleman's sweep. Win percentage was the same with him as it was without him.

The Celtics having the cap space to bring in Kemba down the line makes it easy to accept how things turned out but signing Walker was not the point of the trade.
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:22 PM   #8
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Nance added that three-point shot to his game, he's a cool guy. He's looked better than Kuzma recently tbh. We drafted Wagner with that pick but traded him last season, he's been balling in Washington as well. LeGM made some terrible moves last season.


I think Wagner could be good. Right now his fouls and turnovers are out of control but you can tell he has the talent and motor to be a good player.
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:25 PM   #9
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It has worked out for sure. But at the time, Kyrie had such a high value and we should of gotten a lot more.

No he didn’t. That’s revisionist history.

Kyrie has never had large trade value and he will never have large trade value.


You will never ever ever be able to trade him and get equal talent because of his psychological makeup and the fact that he’s a bad defender that is mostly a net neutral on the court until the closing moments of a game at which point he can consistently be relied upon to at least generate a shot if not make it.

I repeat... Kyrie has never had high trade value and he never will.



For what it’s worth, he wasn’t just willing to be traded to just any place either, FYI. Kyrie is not good enough to dump half your roster for without a promise of him staying. There are maybe 5 guys in the league that fit that bill and Kyrie isn’t close to being one of them.
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