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Old 11-11-2019, 07:05 AM   #16
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Default Re: What year was Kobe the clear-cut best player in the world?

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Makes sense why those 3 guys are solidified top 10 all time players while general consensus for Kobe is 12thBe
Thought it is now 14thBe?
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:21 AM   #17
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From 05-10.
05 - he didn't even make the playoffs that year

06 - Wade & Dirk have strong arguments

07 - Duncan & LeBron were better

08 - KG,LeBron and CP3 had strong arguments

09 - LeBron

10 - LeBron

Kobe was never the clear cut best
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:58 AM   #18
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05 - he didn't even make the playoffs that year

06 - Wade & Dirk have strong arguments

07 - Duncan & LeBron were better

08 - KG,LeBron and CP3 had strong arguments

09 - LeBron

10 - LeBron

Kobe was never the clear cut best
He was in 08 and 10 to me.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:11 AM   #19
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Default Re: What year was Kobe the clear-cut best player in the world?

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05 - he didn't even make the playoffs that year

06 - Wade & Dirk have strong arguments

07 - Duncan & LeBron were better

08 - KG,LeBron and CP3 had strong arguments

09 - LeBron

10 - LeBron

Kobe was never the clear cut best

Sorry pal. You already said that Kobe 》 Lebron and that Lebron is 11th all time
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:19 AM   #20
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He was in 08 and 10 to me.

2008 was close. He, Lebron, and CP3 were a wash.
2010 is Lebron by a mile, for me. I'm not sure how it's even an argument. Lebron played at an all time level and was comfortably ahead of anyone in the league in almost every advanced metric. He was the best offensive player in the league while being arguably the best perimeter defensive player that year.

You might want to knock off a few points for his collapse in the playoffs but if we were to do that, you'd have to do the same with Kobe, who wet the bed in the finals and especially in the most important game of the season.

2010 was Lebron for me. Ahead of Wade. Ahead of Kobe.

I've got:

1999 Shaq
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq/Duncan
2003 Shaq/Duncan
2004 Garnett/Duncan
2005 Duncan/Nash
2006 Wade/Nash/Dirk/Kobe
2007 Duncan/pre-injury Wade/Kobe/Dirk (playoff collapse hurt Dirk)
2008 Kobe/Lebron/CP3
2009 Lebron (Wade was also great but Lebron was the best player in the league)
2010 Lebron
2011 Lebron/Dirk (finals really hurt Lebron)
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Durant
2015 Lebron/Steph
2016 Steph/Lebron


I think that Kobe was only in the discussion for 3 years. You could make a case for any of the 3 years but I still think he has a relatively weak case, against Wade in 06, Duncan & Dirk in 2007, and Chris Paul in 2008.
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:22 AM   #21
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Default Re: What year was Kobe the clear-cut best player in the world?

05-10.

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2008 was close. He, Lebron, and CP3 were a wash.
2010 is Lebron by a mile, for me. I'm not sure how it's even an argument. Lebron played at an all time level and was comfortably ahead of anyone in the league in almost every advanced metric. He was the best offensive player in the league while being arguably the best perimeter defensive player that year.

You might want to knock off a few points for his collapse in the playoffs but if we were to do that, you'd have to do the same with Kobe, who wet the bed in the finals and especially in the most important game of the season.

2010 was Lebron for me. Ahead of Wade. Ahead of Kobe.

I've got:

1999 Shaq
2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq/Duncan
2003 Shaq/Duncan
2004 Garnett/Duncan
2005 Duncan/Nash
2006 Wade/Nash/Dirk/Kobe
2007 Duncan/pre-injury Wade/Kobe/Dirk (playoff collapse hurt Dirk)
2008 Kobe/Lebron/CP3
2009 Lebron (Wade was also great but Lebron was the best player in the league)
2010 Lebron
2011 Lebron/Dirk (finals really hurt Lebron)
2012 Lebron
2013 Lebron
2014 Durant
2015 Lebron/Steph
2016 Steph/Lebron


I think that Kobe was only in the discussion for 3 years. You could make a case for any of the 3 years but I still think he has a relatively weak case, against Wade in 06, Duncan & Dirk in 2007, and Chris Paul in 2008.

We appreciate your input.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:02 AM   #22
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2000-2013
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:09 AM   #23
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05-06 and 06-07 for sure.

I would take Kobe in 07/08, but that year is much closer.

Lebron became the best player in the 08/09 season.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:22 AM   #24
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06-08 pretty undisputed. Can arguments for a few other years
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:54 AM   #25
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They year Kobe lived rent free in Bran stan heads... oh wait that means he's still the best player in the world then.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:00 AM   #26
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They year Kobe lived rent free in Bran stan heads... oh wait that means he's still the best player in the world then.

> Kobe lives rent free in Bran stan heads
> Makes 20 posts about Lebron a day

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Old 11-11-2019, 11:01 AM   #27
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> Kobe lives rent free in Bran stan heads
> Makes 20 posts about Lebron a day

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It's about one-two a day now but stay chasing me around
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:07 AM   #28
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It's about one-two a day now but stay chasing me around

Chasing? Dude you are literally in every thread crying about Lebron, nobody can avoid you.


The term "rent-free"was literally invented because of you lmao
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:09 AM   #29
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05 - he didn't even make the playoffs that year

06 - Wade & Dirk have strong arguments

07 - Duncan & LeBron were better

08 - KG,LeBron and CP3 had strong arguments

09 - LeBron

10 - LeBron

Kobe was never the clear cut best

Lebron himself said Kobe's better and that's during Bran's peak in 2009.
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Old 11-11-2019, 11:10 AM   #30
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From 06 to 09. Feel like Kobes 09 wcf and finals performance was better than the 09 regular season LeBron.

Just sayin'
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