Ricky Rubio...He Is Who We Thought He Was

[DaOldLion]

Not really.

Even at Rondo's peak, the Celtics overall were a poor offensive team. And that shouldn't happen when you are playing with guys like Pierce, Allen, and KG.

10th in 08, 6th in 09, 15th in 10. Their pace was always in the bottom half of the league too. Rondo's peak didn't occur until the latter half of the 2010 season. Where he put up 16/5/9/2 on 46% FG while going all the way to game 7 of the finals in the playoffs. Now, let's ignore the fact that Rubio hasn't even been to the playoffs, and focus on the fact that he hasn't gotten close to putting up that type of ppg on that type of efficiency, and that he's never even averaged 9+ assist per game, Rondo has not only done this in the regular season but he's also done this over the course of an entire playoff run that went to the finals

[LAZERUSS]

You mean straight time travel?

Jordan would be a fkin God in the 50's. Heck he would've been so good he would've probably killed the sport's popularity by making a mockery of it.

Not sure about the late 50's, but in the 60's, and with the conditions at the time...likely a 45 ppg scorer on about a .450 FG% at his peak.

[plowking]

those guys were also posting superior stats to Rubio and leading their teams to the NBA finals. What exactly is Rubio doing again?

Jason Kidd at Rubio's age was averaging 12/6/9...

Rubio is averaging 12/4/8...

[Mrofir]

He's still young. Kidd through 5 seasons was a moderately but not far better shooter than Rubio. If Rubio can pull his FG% up to 40 he's a good player.

I honestly think he will figure that out.

Give him another 3 years before final judgement. He's a guy with 10 seasons left.

[plowking]

Along with doing less at everything else, as well.

This guy is a bust.

What were they doing that Rubio wasn't?

[LAZERUSS]

He's still young. Kidd through 5 seasons was a moderately but not far better shooter than Rubio. If Rubio can pull his FG% up to 40 he's a good player.

I honestly think he will figure that out.

Give him another 3 years before final judgement. He's a guy with 10 seasons left.

He has had long enough. He is 25 years old, and is basically the SAME player today, as he was when he came into the league. Oh, and then there is that injury thing, as well.

BUST.

[LAZERUSS]

What were they doing that Rubio wasn't?

Iverson was one of those mentioned...how about leading the league in scoring and taking his team to the Finals at age 25?

[DaOldLion]

Wolves with Wiggins and Towns won't be a lottery team for long. You can't blame him for being drafted by a team that was rebuiding. That's like saying Irving was a bad player before Lebron because he was on a perennial lottery team. Can't use that against him because no one is saying he has to be able to single handedly lead a team to the play offs to avoid being called a bust. Like I said he isn't a great player but he's not terrible either.

You can't blame him for being drafted by a team that was rebuiding.

I can blame him for not improving in any facet of his game for his entire career , in his rookie year he put up 10 FGA per game on 36%.. what's he doing this year? Putting up 10 FGA per game on 36%.. what'd he do last year? Another 10 FGA on 36%

His playmaking his supposed to be his saving grace, yet he's never even managed over 9 assist per game..

That's like saying Irving was a bad player before Lebron because he was on a perennial lottery team.

no not at all, Irving was putting up 22/6 on 45% showing that he can be elite at at least one aspect of the game. He showed that he could score at an NBA level in his 2nd year.. Rubio still hasn't done that.. Rubio hasn't shown that he can be elite at any aspect of the game other than flashy passes. He's not an elite playmaker or defender is an absolute liability scoring the ball.. Kyrie is in an entirely different league than Rubio and its obvious watching them play and even in the box score..

[DaOldLion]

Jason Kidd at Rubio's age was averaging 12/6/9...

Rubio is averaging 12/4/8...

And Iverson at Rubio's age was leading the league in scoring, winning MVP and taking his team to the finals

big difference

[Kblaze8855]

I dont care if someone who shoots it 8-9 times makes 3 as opposed to 4 of them when his job isnt to score. Last full game I watched of his was vs the Bulls and he shot 20%...and was playing well. 200 points get scored...im not gonna determine if you played well or not by if you made or missed 2 that greatly alter your percentages when you only take 10-11 shots.


There is no number which on its own proves what he is. Hell hes 12th at the moment in career assists per game and Nash is the only person ahead of him who didnt play more minutes. And his career steals per game is 7th highest all time.

Those dont prove hes a star.

I never thought he would be some 20-25 a game scorer. He was supposed to be a playmaker. Which he seems to be.

[Proctor]

You guys are all wasting your time with the comparisons...

Iverson was Iverson, Kidd was Kidd, Maravich was Maravich, Rubio is Rubio.

Not a bust, and someone who would make 60s era guards look like lawn gnomes with his passing.

[plowking]

Iverson was one of those mentioned...how about leading the league in scoring and taking his team to the Finals at age 25?

But Iverson was never the passer, rebounder or defender that Rubio was.

And Iverson was taking 30 shots to score 30 points in the playoffs that year. Is that conductive to a team winning?

[Milbuck]

Rubio is a stud and I would LOVE him on the Bucks. Anyone who judges him based on his raw stats doesn't have a clue about his game. Dude is a brilliant floor general and one of the highest impact players in the game despite what the numbers say.

[game3524]

But Iverson was never the passer, rebounder or defender that Rubio was.

And Iverson was taking 30 shots to score 30 points in the playoffs that year. Is that conductive to a team winning?

Uh...yeah.

The Sixers were basically .600 ball club(50 win pace) with a healthy AI in the lineup taking a crap load of shots.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wouldve gone down as a legend had he played in the 60's.