Larry Bird Greatest Games: 43 Pts/13 Rbs/6 Asst. vs Pistons (1985 ECSF Game 5)

[pauk]

My 2nd tier defensive list, of guys Bird would not dominate against:

Gerald Wallace
Bismack Biyombo
Joakim Noah
CJ Miles
Andre Iguodala
Greg Monroe
Lebron James
Tayshaun Prince
David Lee
Omer Asik
Roy Hibbert
Caron Butler
Tony Allen
Anthony Davis
Serge Ibaka
Andrew Bynum
LaMarcus Aldridge
Demarcus Cousins
Stephen Jackson
Al Jefferson
Nene


Mostly current players all of whom practically plays Forward and Power Forward.

Get out of here with Bird going to dominate today's league.

lol @ this guy being 2nd tier:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/79...defensive-team

[9erempiree]

LMAO

Didn't you read my post

Guards and forwards like Bobby Jones, Michael Cooper, Dennis Rodman, Julius Erving, Scottie Pippen, Michael Jordan, James Worthy, Dominique Wilkins, Cliff Robinson, Horace Grant, Michael Jordan, Orlando Woolridge, Kenny Walker, Jerome Kersey, Moncrief..... Some great defenders, athletes or both right there.
Plus PF's/C's like Ewing, Hakeem, Kareem, Moses, Eaton, Sikma, Sampson, Laimbeer, Buck Williams, MAhorn, Karl, Barkley, Robinson, Bol, Nance, Cummings, Gilmore, Tree Rollins, Daugherty, Kemp........

Sh!ts all over your list and I'm missing plenty, and he faced some of them after '88 in conditions most wouldn't endure.

I'm sorry but my list shat's on your list. You try to bring up Guards and Shooting Guards to attempt to add more names to the list.

I brought up guys who were shot blockers or defensive specialists that actually play Forward/Center/Power Forward, so those guys would covering Bird.

If I wanted to bring up Guards, than my list will be way too long.....

[pauk]

Dikembe Mutombo
Shaquile O' Neal
Tim Duncan
Alonzo Mourning
Marcus Camby
Ben Wallace
Shawn Bradley
Theo Ratliff
Kevin Garnett
Jermaine O' Neal
Elton Brand
Vlade Divac
Elden Campbell
Rasheed Wallace
Dwight Howard
Andrei Kirilenko
Eric Dampier
Sam Dalembert
Pau Gasol
Josh Smith
Zydrunas Ilguaskas
Chris Webber
Shawn Marion
Brendan Haywood
Derrick Coleman
Robert Horry
Chris Dudley
Tyson Chandler
Emeka Okafor
Amare Stoudemire
Yao Ming

Players who are defensive forces in the eras you asked for. Whether those guys played Center or Forward.

If you are a true basketball fan, you can't say with a straight face those guys I listed, if they guarded Bird, Bird would dominate?

[9erempiree]

lol @ this guy being 2nd tier:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/79...defensive-team

Just goes to show you how deep of great defensive players there are after Bird retired.

He wouldn't do anything against the 2nd tier. My first tier is solid.

[9erempiree]

Young Horry was a great defender with the Rockets. He use to be an athletic freak and has changed his game dramtically to stay so long in the league. I'm sure Houston fans can vouch for this.


Amare was a great defender before his micro-fracture.

[9erempiree]

1996 and beyond will be one of the greatest collection of players and talent.

[Round Mound]

I Think Their Should Be An Age Limit For Posters. To Much Stupidity is Going In This Post By Younsters Than Never Saw Bird Play.

[Round Mound]

1996 and beyond will be one of the greatest collection of players and talent.

1996 The Year Scottie Pippen a Perimeter Player Had the Highest Defensive Ratings. While This Never Happened In the 80s, All Big Men Had the Highest Defensive Ratings Cause of the Rules Back Then Where All Benefitial for Big Men PFs/CFs/Cs and Not For Perimeter Player.

Dirk Has Nothing on Bird Skill Wise and He Dominates The Game While Not Being the Rebounder, Passer, Creator, and Defender Bird Was

Dirk Never Reached This Level of Play, Ever .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0g0FhSlWs

[9erempiree]

1996 The Year Scottie Pippen a Perimeter Player Had the Highest Defensive Ratings. While This Never Happened In the 80s, All Big Men Had the Highest Defensive Ratings Cause of the Rules Back Then Where All Benefitial for Big Men PFs/CFs/Cs and Not For Perimeter Player.

Dirk Has Nothing on Bird Skill Wise and He Dominates The Game While Not Being the Rebounder, Passer, Creator, and Defender Bird Was

Dirk Never Reached This Level of Play, Ever .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_0g0FhSlWs

Dirk will dominate in the 80's as well.

[9erempiree]

RoundMound, I believe you are the one that is delusional.

Dirk vs OKC....48 points. Let me see Bird have this kind of shooting performance.

This is going against, Durant, Ibaka and Thabo....all great defenders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktg1wtY4pU

I can go on and because he had a historical playoff run that Bird would dream of having.

[Round Mound]

Durant isn`t a Great Defender and You Must Understand Bird Was Better Than Dirk At Everything From 1979-88. Everything. Before Injuries Bird Owned The League and There By Far Better Players Than Today even More Phenomenas like a 6`4 3/4 ft Powerforward and a 7`4 Powerforward.

Bird Got 60 Within The Flow of the Game While Creating and Rebounding. Dir Can Only Score. He is One of the Worst All Around Superstars Out There. A One Dimensional Player.

This is a Player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUlpUkPMLA

[STATUTORY]

shaqisgoat's list is fraudulent, Rodman wasn't even starting till the 90s, and Scottie saw limited mins till 90s, kenny walker was a a guy that barely got 20 mins a game on a good year and this guy is listing him really shows how he's scraping the bottom of the barrell, bobby jones was an unathletic forward that was on his way out of the league by time of bird's emergence, same as moncreif

guys like erving, worthy, dominique weren't good defenders. the best defender Bird saw was probably Cooper and Cooper was a string bean

u can't just name players that played a few mins in the 80s that's BS cause the prime of a lot of the plaeyrs u listed did NOT overlap with Bird's prime

none of those vids showed excellent defense, u guys need to stop drinking that nostalgia koolaid

[9erempiree]

Durant isn`t a Great Defender and You Must Understand Bird Was Better Than Dirk At Everything From 1979-88. Everything. Before Injuries Bird Owned The League and There By Far Better Players Than Today even More Phenomenas like a 6`4 3/4 ft Powerforward and a 7`4 Powerforward.

Bird Got 60 Within The Flow of the Game While Creating and Rebounding. Dir Can Only Score. He is One of the Worst All Around Superstars Out There. A One Dimensional Player.

This is a Player:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRUlpUkPMLA

I stopped watching after the first play. If you are going to prove that defenses were tough and he can dominate today. Please use another video.

[Round Mound]

RoundMound, I believe you are the one that is delusional.

Dirk vs OKC....48 points. Let me see Bird have this kind of shooting performance.

This is going against, Durant, Ibaka and Thabo....all great defenders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tktg1wtY4pU

I can go on and because he had a historical playoff run that Bird would dream of having.

Has Dirk Ever Averaged 9.5 APG in a NBA Finals?

Has Dirk Ever Averaged 15.2 RPG in an NBA Finals?

What About Defense?

Steals Per Game?

Dirk Is One Dimensional. Period.

[9erempiree]

Has Dirk Ever Averaged 9.5 APG in a NBA Finals?

Has Dirk Ever Averaged 15.2 RPG in an NBA Finals?

What About Defense?

Steals Per Game?

Dirk Is One Dimensional. Period.

Put Dirk in Bird's era...he will average those.