Muggsy Bogues video. Would you take him as your starting point?

[Scoooter]

Considering he was actually a pretty good defender, I'd take him. You couldn't really post him up and back him down (it's hard to explain why, but if you'd tried to post up a really short guy before, you'll get it) and he stayed in front of everyone very well. He was actually a really good point guard.

He was really strong. A little ball of muscle. You can see how thick his legs were in kblaze's video.

[Bigsmoke]

no i'm good

he's not that short. dude is only an inch shorter than Kendrick Lamar.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

no i'm good

he's not that short. dude is only an inch shorter than Kendrick Lamar.

Lamar is 5'4?

[Bigsmoke]

Lamar is 5'4?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3aRK4fhfxY

Come from a city where ****** show no remorse
And a corpse is just another hommy taking it's course
Of course my dream was to play in the Final Four
Till the twelfth grade came and I was only 5'4

[HylianNightmare]

on the magic?
no thanks

[redhonda76]

Muggsy ran the offense very well but his biggest weakness was his shot. His inability make a mid-range shot consistently was huge. I wouldn't want him to be my starting point guard but I do admire him to be able to beat the odds and play in the NBA for a long time.

[Reggie43]

Yes definitely. Who wouldnt want a guy who avgs so many assists with so little turnovers. and for all those who think that he would be easily exploited by the defense, I once heard that he was actually one of the hardest guards to post up due to his excellent frontal defense combined with his speed, quickness and unreal strength for a guy his size.

[Kblaze8855]

Im sure he spent his whole life dealing with guys assuming they were gonna post him up and have it easy. He had too much pride for that. If hes guarding MJ, Pippen, and Drazen posting him up you know hes not backing down from anyone.

[ukplayer4]

k-blaze as always making a great case here (and backing it up with another nice vidoe, props as always to you) surely mugsy in his prime would start on some teams these days. i also remember him being tough defensively, players couldnt even get it across halfcourt at times...

[bumpyknucks]

I always felt like he never found the perfect situation for him (few players do I guess tho) but ideally....he

[Kblaze8855]

Yea MJ said "Shooti t you ****ing midget!" and destroyed his confidence. Ruthless.

And yea he probably should have been a backup. But he was fine in his role.

[Rake2204]

Of course I'd take Muggsy Bogues as my starting point guard. Then again, I suppose it'd depend upon who my other guards were, but Bogues was excellent. 2 steals per game, a 5:1 assists-to-turnovers ratio? It's not as if Bogues survived in a league full of non-athletes around his same size. He's always been smaller than everyone and he's always thrived.

Now, I found this thread through Google because I was looking to see if Muggsy college clips already existed on YouTube. Turns out they do, but I'd already uploaded my video, so here's my short Muggsy contribution - much of which can be seen in KBlaze's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O69fV...ature=youtu.be

[Penny4MVP2k]

Are you guys kidding me?! With today's rules, Muggsy would be a beast!

Sure, defenses would eventually sag off him to cut off his drive, but there's a guy out there with a SOMEWHAT similar game today who destroyed Miami yesterday...

As far as making him pay on the defensive end, I mean, this guy played in an era where guys like Magic, GP, Penny, Cassell, Mark Jackson and later Jason Kidd, Billups, etc. were the prominent post-up guards, but I never really recall a time where he was regularly exposed.

I recall watching some Magic/Hornets games in the past and Penny would never really test Muggsy's ball-hawking; electing to pick up his dribble at earlier than he normally would. In fact, I vaguely recall Penny saying how difficult it was to post Muggsy, cuz Muggsy would get so much leverage, which would prevent him from getting the position he would want.

With today's zone defenses, lack of hand checking, and the lost art of the post-up guard, I'd say Muggsy would have performed great in this era.

[sipitri]

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

[kumquat]

There's quite a few misconeptions about him not being able to defend bigger guys, he was a pesky little on ball defender.