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    Default List of players that need spacing the most

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    These players rely on wider driving lanes [COLOR="DarkRed"]because their mid-range AND 3-point shots are completely broke[/COLOR]:


    Lebron James
    Russell Westbrook
    Jimmy Butler
    Demar Derozan
    Blake Griffin
    Dwayne Wade


    These players had poor 3-point and midrange efficiency for most of their careers, so their game would drop-off the most in previous eras without spacing and hands-off defense to help their drives.

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
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    These players rely on wider driving lanes [COLOR="DarkRed"]because their mid-range AND 3-point shots are completely broke[/COLOR]:


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    Career 3 point percentage

    LeBron 34%


    Jordan (on regular 3 point distance) 30.5%




    LeBron is the far better 3 point and midrange shooter compared to MJ

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    I'd also include:

    John Wall
    James Harden

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Can you post those players' FG% and FGA from midrange

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Or maybe teams are maximizing the players talent to drive and kick? It's all about perspective

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    illegal.

    defense.

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin

    illegal defense.
    defensive 3 seconds

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    defensive 3 seconds
    You ready to go to war again amigo?

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
    illegal.

    defense.
    /thread

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin

    You ready to go to war again amigo?
    What war?

    You're going to post obvious lies about how defenders in previous eras couldn't sag off their man or 3-point shooters, and I'll post the truth that they could sag off their man just as much as today.

    Infact, today's defender can only sag off 3-point shooters until they meet the paint (where defensive 3 seconds kicks in), whereas defenders in previous eras could sag off shooters further - weakside defenders could sag off shooters and paint-camp indefinitely in the "outside lane" (the outer partition that runs up each side of the paint).

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    I wonder if 3ball has a family, or a girlfriend, or a job

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranked 12th

    LeBron is the far better 3 point and midrange shooter compared to MJ
    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Neither player has good efficiency on 3-point jumpshots, but Jordan had GOAT efficiency on 2-point and midrange jumpshots, which were taken far more often for both players.

    Consequently, Jordan's Efg on jumpshots was far better in 1997 than any season of Lebron's career:[/COLOR]




    [COLOR="White"].................[/COLOR]eFG% All Jumpshots[COLOR="White"]................[/COLOR] Midrange

    Jordan 1997:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 51.2%, 727/1528........... 48.9%, 588/1202

    Lebron 2004:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.6%, 324/998............ 33.2%, 183/551
    Lebron 2005:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.9%, 400/1136.......... 36.0%, 217/602
    Lebron 2006:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.7%, 423/1166.......... 38.4%, 242/630
    Lebron 2007:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.5%, 372/1066.......... 35.1%, 204/581
    Lebron 2008:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.4%, 338/1001.......... 36.4%, 185/508
    Lebron 2009:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.2%, 366/1024.......... 36.8%, 193/525
    Lebron 2010:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.4%, 356/970............ 38.8%, 188/444
    Lebron 2011:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 45.4%, 393/968............ 44.6%, 217/487
    Lebron 2012:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.7%, 290/726............ 42.3%, 188/444
    Lebron 2013:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 49.0%, 333/784............ 43.2%, 174/403
    Lebron 2014:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 47.0%, 288/736............ 38.5%, 126/327
    Lebron 2015:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.1%, 280/788............ 37.0%, 127/343
    Lebron 2016:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.0%, 181/543............ 37.1%, 96/259

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Side note: OP is the worst.

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    This is the 6th time 3ball deleted his reply to me and reposted it



    FYI.

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    Default Re: List of players that need spacing the most

    Quote Originally Posted by Labissiere

    Side note: OP is the worst.
    [COLOR="DarkRed"]I'm just stating the facts.

    MJ was one of the best 2-point jumpshooters of all-time - better than Curry.

    He shot far better than Curry on jumpshots inside the 3-point line, on FIVE times the volume:[/COLOR]





    [COLOR="White"]......................[/COLOR]MJ 1997[COLOR="White"]...................[/COLOR]Curry 2015[COLOR="White"]............ [/COLOR]Curry 2016 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- links to nba.com data[/COLOR]

    8-16 ft......... 51.8%, 682 fga........... 46.8%, 126 fga........ 50.0%, 90 fga

    16-24 ft....... 48.2%, 495 fga........... 39.4%, 218 fga........ 45.1%, 113 fga




    [COLOR="DarkRed"]Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)[/COLOR]


    [COLOR="Navy"]JORDAN 1997[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 49.3%, 1202 fga

    [COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2015[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.1%, 285 fga
    [COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2016[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 45.0%, 160 fga

    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON 2015[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 37.0%, 343 fga
    [COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON 2016[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 37.1%, 251 fga

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