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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
List of players that need spacing the most
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These players rely on wider driving lanes [COLOR="DarkRed"]because their mid-range AND 3-point shots are completely broke[/COLOR]:
Lebron James
Russell Westbrook
Jimmy Butler
Demar Derozan
Blake Griffin
Dwayne Wade
These players had poor 3-point and midrange efficiency for most of their careers, so their game would drop-off the most in previous eras without spacing and hands-off defense to help their drives.
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Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by 3ball
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These players rely on wider driving lanes [COLOR="DarkRed"]because their mid-range AND 3-point shots are completely broke[/COLOR]:
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Career 3 point percentage
LeBron 34%
Jordan (on regular 3 point distance) 30.5%
LeBron is the far better 3 point and midrange shooter compared to MJ
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Re: List of players that need spacing the most
I'd also include:
John Wall
James Harden
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Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Can you post those players' FG% and FGA from midrange
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Or maybe teams are maximizing the players talent to drive and kick? It's all about perspective
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XXL
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
illegal defense.
defensive 3 seconds
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XXL
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by 3ball
defensive 3 seconds
You ready to go to war again amigo?
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Local High School Star
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
illegal.
defense.
/thread
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by Im Still Ballin
You ready to go to war again amigo?
What war?
You're going to post obvious lies about how defenders in previous eras couldn't sag off their man or 3-point shooters, and I'll post the truth that they could sag off their man just as much as today.
Infact, today's defender can only sag off 3-point shooters until they meet the paint (where defensive 3 seconds kicks in), whereas defenders in previous eras could sag off shooters further - weakside defenders could sag off shooters and paint-camp indefinitely in the "outside lane" (the outer partition that runs up each side of the paint).
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NBA All-star
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
I wonder if 3ball has a family, or a girlfriend, or a job
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by Ranked 12th
LeBron is the far better 3 point and midrange shooter compared to MJ
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Neither player has good efficiency on 3-point jumpshots, but Jordan had GOAT efficiency on 2-point and midrange jumpshots, which were taken far more often for both players.
Consequently, Jordan's Efg on jumpshots was far better in 1997 than any season of Lebron's career:[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"].................[/COLOR]eFG% All Jumpshots[COLOR="White"]................[/COLOR] Midrange
Jordan 1997:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 51.2%, 727/1528........... 48.9%, 588/1202
Lebron 2004:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 35.6%, 324/998............ 33.2%, 183/551
Lebron 2005:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.9%, 400/1136.......... 36.0%, 217/602
Lebron 2006:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.7%, 423/1166.......... 38.4%, 242/630
Lebron 2007:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.5%, 372/1066.......... 35.1%, 204/581
Lebron 2008:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.4%, 338/1001.......... 36.4%, 185/508
Lebron 2009:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 42.2%, 366/1024.......... 36.8%, 193/525
Lebron 2010:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.4%, 356/970............ 38.8%, 188/444
Lebron 2011:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 45.4%, 393/968............ 44.6%, 217/487
Lebron 2012:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.7%, 290/726............ 42.3%, 188/444
Lebron 2013:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 49.0%, 333/784............ 43.2%, 174/403
Lebron 2014:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 47.0%, 288/736............ 38.5%, 126/327
Lebron 2015:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 43.1%, 280/788............ 37.0%, 127/343
Lebron 2016:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 39.0%, 181/543............ 37.1%, 96/259
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Last edited by 3ball; 03-22-2016 at 03:53 PM.
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Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Side note: OP is the worst.
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Re: List of players that need spacing the most
This is the 6th time 3ball deleted his reply to me and reposted it
FYI.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: List of players that need spacing the most
Originally Posted by Labissiere
Side note: OP is the worst.
[COLOR="DarkRed"]I'm just stating the facts.
MJ was one of the best 2-point jumpshooters of all-time - better than Curry.
He shot far better than Curry on jumpshots inside the 3-point line, on FIVE times the volume:[/COLOR]
[COLOR="White"]......................[/COLOR]MJ 1997[COLOR="White"]...................[/COLOR]Curry 2015[COLOR="White"]............ [/COLOR]Curry 2016 [COLOR="DarkGreen"]<--- links to nba.com data[/COLOR]
8-16 ft......... 51.8%, 682 fga........... 46.8%, 126 fga........ 50.0%, 90 fga
16-24 ft....... 48.2%, 495 fga........... 39.4%, 218 fga........ 45.1%, 113 fga
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Overall midrange % (all shots inside the 3-point line but outside the paint)[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]JORDAN 1997[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 49.3%, 1202 fga
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2015[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 41.1%, 285 fga
[COLOR="Navy"]CURRY[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] 2016[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 45.0%, 160 fga
[COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON 2015[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 37.0%, 343 fga
[COLOR="Navy"]LEBRON 2016[/COLOR]:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 37.1%, 251 fga
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