rings dont count unless you win fmvp

[rlsmooth775]

You can't use rings to make cases for players if he wasn't even the best player in the championship round sidekick rings are cheap and embarrassing to brag about

[dubeta]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

[SMoKe0uT]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

Russell 22 > everyone combined?

[Lamar Odumbb]

lebron stans still butt hurt he was humiliated by KY Jelly leonard and old man Duncan.

[Nuff Said]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

Your list is severely lacking but ok.

[kennethgriffin]

some teams dont win with 1 guy doing all the work

some teams win with 2 lead dogs

some teams have no lead dog and a random wins fmvp


sorry it varies based on each situation


kobe averaged 25/5/5 combined for the 3 titles he won without finals mvp

guys have won finals mvp with worse stats

in 2001 kobe had 29/7/6

that > kawhi leonard

[Marchesk]

FMVP + MVP + DPOY

Russell 19
MJ 12
Lebron 6
Kobe 3

[ThePhantomCreep]

Makes sense, otherwise Horry>Jordan

FMVP+ MVP is the true GOAT ranking

Jordan 11

LeBron 6

Shaq 4

Kobe 3

Rose > KG?

[Marchesk]

Russell 1.5-2X > MJ
MJ twice as good as Lebron
Lebron 2 times Kobe
Kobe 1.5 times Nash
Nash twice Malone

[rlsmooth775]

some teams dont win with 1 guy doing all the work

some teams win with 2 lead dogs

some teams have no lead dog and a random wins fmvp


sorry it varies based on each situation


kobe averaged 25/5/5 combined for the 3 titles he won without finals mvp

guys have won finals mvp with worse stats

in 2001 kobe had 29/7/6




that > kawhi leonard

Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you

[Nowitness]

FMVP just means best in the finals though, you do realize that. You really think Cedric Maxwell was the best player for Boston? You really think Paul Pierce was the best player in 08? Or Parker in 07?

[ImKobe]

Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you

Because only 1 player is deserving of the ring and other teammates have 0 impact on the outcome. Great logic.

[rlsmooth775]

Because only 1 player is deserving of the ring and other teammates have 0 impact on the outcome. Great logic.

Yeah but the ring only matters if you were the leader of the team thats the point. Who cares about sidekick rings

[kennethgriffin]

Yeah I dont count kobe and his 3 sidekick rings as real championships. In order for it to have count he would have had to be the best player in the championship round. It just seems cheap to brag about a ring when a teammate played better than you

for the bazillionth time

the championship round was after the fact

kobe averaged 33ppg and shaq averaged 27ppg through the first 3 rounds in 2001


against the REAL competition


honestly how many times are we gonna have this same exact conversation

it goes the same way every single time


someone says kobe didnt win finals mvp


we post stats and competition.


you go crying and hiding

[rlsmooth775]

for the bazillionth time

the championship round was after the fact

kobe averaged 33ppg and shaq averaged 27ppg through the first 3 rounds in 2001


against the REAL competition


honestly how many times are we gonna have this same exact conversation

it goes the same way every single time



someone says kobe didnt win finals mvp


we post stats and competition.


you go crying and hiding

So kobe wet his pants in the final round and needed Shaq to carry him to the championship hahahahahahahahah