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Old 10-21-2012, 05:58 PM   #31
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Default Re: If LeBron went to college, how much do you think he would have averaged?

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College is different than high school. There is no argument when it comes to that. You must not watch very much college basketball.

Dude are you for real.

First of all dont come around talking like politician.Decide on your basis for rebuttal and then go from there.You said blowout then now you say college basketball is different.Just look up stats from HERE.

A lot of players score more than 20ppg in their first year and this is lebron we are talking about.He was 240 in HS senior year.He was bigger and stronger than almost every nba player at his position at 17-18 years old.Dont you think he can at least muster up michael beasley kind of numbers after averaging 31.6ppg 9.6rpg 4.6apg 3.8spg in HS


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He never even avg 30 in high school. 20 seems about right.
Check the stats in his junior year he averaged 29ppg then 31.6ppg in his senior year

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Old 10-21-2012, 06:04 PM   #32
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No but seriously, Lebron at that age was alot more NBA ready (arguably the most talented and physically gifted player ever at that age) than maybe all players in NBA history...... you need to keep that in mind... 20-5-5 would be an absolute minimum and mostly a result of to little minutes than anything else...

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Old 10-21-2012, 06:32 PM   #33
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College is a lot more physical and half court centric. Lebron as a rookie was a horrible halfcourt player and even more of a pansy then he is today. A fair statline would be

16 ppg 5rpg 3 apg on 43/22/68 shooting.

on a 20-22 win team that loses in the first round of the tourney

acting like lebron would struggle playing college hoops. lebron was an nba all-star from the first game of his rookie season, he wouldn't play the same minutes or get the same stats but he would still easily be the best player. you saw what anthony davis was able to do. rookie lebron was even more nba ready

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXl2Z53bvQ
beast. would just shit on the inferior competition of the ncaa
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:07 PM   #34
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Default Re: If LeBron went to college, how much do you think he would have averaged?

Depends on the school. MJ averaged like 20-6-4 in his last college year, then proceeded to average 28-6-6 in his rookie year.
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Old 10-21-2012, 07:20 PM   #35
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Default Re: If LeBron went to college, how much do you think he would have averaged?

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acting like lebron would struggle playing college hoops. lebron was an nba all-star from the first game of his rookie season, he wouldn't play the same minutes or get the same stats but he would still easily be the best player. you saw what anthony davis was able to do. rookie lebron was even more nba ready

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXl2Z53bvQ
beast. would just shit on the inferior competition of the ncaa

Lebron was a poor rookie. Melo was better in their rookie years. Your thinking of current Lebron as a rookie, but it doesnt work that way. Rookie Lebron was a horrible defender and was often left unguarded like Rondo because he could not shoot at all. Plus he was a lot weaker and really struggled against big physical players (remember his "crying game" agains the Pistons when he left the court in tears?) 16/4/3 on 51 TS% is being very genorous. especially in the 2003 ACC or Big Ten, he would be lucky to put up 12 points a game
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Old 10-21-2012, 10:14 PM   #36
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Dude are you for real.

First of all dont come around talking like politician.Decide on your basis for rebuttal and then go from there.You said blowout then now you say college basketball is different.Just look up stats from HERE.

A lot of players score more than 20ppg in their first year and this is lebron we are talking about.He was 240 in HS senior year.He was bigger and stronger than almost every nba player at his position at 17-18 years old.Dont you think he can at least muster up michael beasley kind of numbers after averaging 31.6ppg 9.6rpg 4.6apg 3.8spg in HS



Check the stats in his junior year he averaged 29ppg then 31.6ppg in his senior year

So you honestly think that with the amount of zone run in college that LeBron would average 30 ppg? He had a very mediocre jumpshot coming out of high school, and this is coming from a huge LeBron fan. I highly doubt if teams guarded the paint against LeBron that he would have had such an easy time.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:15 PM   #37
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So you honestly think that with the amount of zone run in college that LeBron would average 30 ppg? He had a very mediocre jumpshot coming out of high school, and this is coming from a huge LeBron fan. I highly doubt if teams guarded the paint against LeBron that he would have had such an easy time.

I think the people saying LeBron would averaged 25-30 or more a game in college really don't watch much college basketball, if any at all. The best scorers in college, in terms of PPG and leading the nation and/or their conference or whatever, are usually very good shooters. Like you said, there's a lot of zone defense in college that just screams for guys like Jimmer, Durant, Morrison, Reddick, etc. to light up the scoreboard. Not sure LeBron would've been able to be as ball dominant in college as he was from day one in the NBA. College offenses are more team and ball movement oriented. Quick passing, ball-reversal, screens, double/stagger screens, etc. Only in extreme and rare situations do you see a coach call for a player to get the ball in an ISO situation. And, when you do, it's usually in a 1-4 flat type set at the end of the half or game.

I think LeBron's all-around numbers would be very good, but he just didn't have the type of game coming out of high school that lent itself to putting up big scoring numbers in college. Not that he wouldn't have the occasional 30 point game, but him averaging that many or close to that many? I don't see it.
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