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    Quote Originally Posted by imdaman99
    That's your opinion and even ignorant people are entitled to them. Have a nice day.
    And so are pu[COLOR="Black"]s[/COLOR]sified white knights such as yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NumberSix
    And so are pu[COLOR="Black"]s[/COLOR]sified white knights such as yourself.
    It is a religion. Just because you think it shouldn't be does not mean it isn't. It fits every definition of a religion. You can certainly disagree with it, but it makes no sense to say it isn't a religion.

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    It is not your typical religion and if it's a religion then we should probably declare war on them. There religion revolves around violence and if that is the case, then we should declare war on them.

    Lets look at the facts, and the facts and the Koran translated over, depicts violence and war over developed democratic countries such as the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    And here is proof of the earliest accounts of beheadings by Mohammed and his followers in what's dubbed, "The Massacre at Banu Qurayza".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza
    No dawg, Mohammed wants peace and love for all

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    I was raised Muslim but am not a hard core follower or anything but the people quoting the book and mentioning Jihad are leaving out the non violent interpretation. Technically a Muslim can be engage in a spiritual struggle. Unfortunately with Islam there are a group of people that are trying to live out Ends of days scenarios and have a more violent interpretation of Jihad. I also feel there are many Christians and maybe even Jews who also want the end of the world to be near.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graviton
    Videos too long, here is a summary.

    1- The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101
    [/quote] http://quran.com/4/101
    2- Make war on The infidels who dwell around you Sura 9:123
    Yusus Ali commented: "[COLOR=blue]When conflict becomes inevitable, the first thing is to clear our surroundings of all evil, for it is only evil that we can rightly fight. To evil we must put up a stout and stiff resistance. Mealy-mouthed compromises are not right for soldiers of truth and righteousness. They are often a compound of cowardice, weariness, greed, and corruptibility[/COLOR]."
    This is because fighting is essentially carried out in their interest and for their well being, therefore, when it comes to care and concern, kinsfolk have precedence - similar to the command given to the Holy Prophet : (And warn your near relatives against the punishment of Allah - 26:214). He carried out the command by assembling people from his family and conveyed to them the Word of Allah as revealed to him. The circle then became larger. In the second sentence of verse 123: (and let them find severity in you), the word: (ghilzah) means severity or toughness. The sense is that the disbelievers must be confronted in a manner that would not allow them to take their adversary to be weak.
    3- When you meet The Infidels in the battlefield, strike off their heads Sura 47:4

    9- 47:4 Therefore, when you meet The infidels (unbelievers), smite their necks until you overcome them fully, and then tighten their bonds; but thereafter [set them free,] either by an act of grace or against ransom, so that the burden of war may be lifted
    http://comparativreligion.blogspot.c...eir-necks.html

    4- Mohamed is Alla's apostale. Those who follow him are ruthless to The infidels Sura 48:29
    http://comparativreligion.blogspot.c...believers.html
    5- Prophet, make war on The infidels Sura 66: 9
    This command was urgently needed at the time it came. It was obvious that in order to save the Muslim community from fall and degradation, it was essential to purge it of all the internal dangers to its solidarity. A community which nourishes hypocrites and traitors and allows the internal enemies to flourish with honor and security will inevitably be doomed to moral degradation and ultimate destruction. Hypocrisy is a plague and a hypocrite is the rat that carries and spreads its germs. Therefore to allow him the freedom of movement in the society is to expose the whole population to the danger of hypocrisy. Likewise, to give a place of honor and prestige to a hypocrite is to encourage many others in hypocrisy and treachery, for this shows that it is not sincerity, true faith, and its welfare that count in it. One may flourish and prosper in it even if one verbally professes to be a Muslim and at the same time indulges in dishonesty and treachery. The Prophet (peace be upon him) has expressed the same thing in a pithy saying. He said,

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    @Etan the usual idiots here (from academic point of view) won't listen\understand to any arguments you bring. They have their fears\shortcomings\insecurities to deal with. They just copy and paste from the usual websites and feel themselves the biggest orientalists in the Western world.
    The joke is, that ISIS and co prey upon their ignorant Muslim counterparts who have the same (miss)understandings and immunity to any signs of productive brain activities.

    Btw I am still waiting for the proof of any European Legislation to accommodate Muslims.

    Since this new moron has quoted the Quran specifically, I'll answer him from the Quran only.
    Note: the Quran has 114 Sura's Chapters). Each consists of Aya's (sentences), thus, if you quote an Aya, it should be at least complete.
    Quote Originally Posted by Graviton
    Videos too long, here is a summary.

    1- The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101
    Dropped rest of Aya and following one. Mohamed was asked if the Muslim patrols could shorten their prayers while patrolling. Answer is strategy guide in setting guards on a campaign:
    4-101. And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer, [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you. Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.
    4-102. When are among them, and lead them in the prayer, let one party of them stand up with you taking their arms with them; when they finish their prostrations, let them take their positions in the rear and let the other party come up which has not yet prayed, and let them pray with you taking all the precautions and bearing arms. Those who disbelieve wish, if you were negligent of your arms and your baggage, to attack you in a single rush, but there is no sin on you if you put away your arms because of the inconvenience of rain or because you are ill, but take every precaution for yourselves. Verily, Allah has prepared a humiliating torment for the disbelievers.


    2- Make war on The infidels who dwell around you Sura 9:123
    Didn’t mention the 3 Aya’s before. It is about the non-Muslims in Medina who had treaties with the Muslims and didn’t fulfill their part. It goes on until 9-123.
    9-120 begins with “It was not [proper] for the people of Medina and those surrounding them of the Bedouins that they remain behind after [the departure of] the Messenger of Allah [to war] or that they prefer themselves over his self


    3- When you meet The Infidels in the battlefield, strike off their heads Sura 47:4
    Again forgot to mention the rest of the Aya here but you have it under 9: It describes how to fight in war and what to do with prisoners. Arabs before Islam didn’t take any prisoners from common folk.
    47-4. So, when you meet (in war), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity [COLOR="Red"](i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom, until the war lays down its burden[/COLOR]


    4- Mohamed is Alla's apostale. Those who follow him are ruthless to The infidels Sura 48:29
    this is the last Aya in the Sura. Read it all if you are interested and you’ll understand the meaning.

    5- Prophet, make war on The infidels Sura 66: 9
    Dropped the remainder of the Aya. It was about an internal political struggle in Medina, where some people pretended to be Muslims and agitated against them. Read the Sura to understand.
    66-9. O Prophet! Strive hard against the disbelievers [COLOR="Red"]and the hypocrites[/COLOR]

    6- Never be a helper to The disbelievers Sura 28:86
    You dropped again the first part of the Aya. It was about non-Muslims trying to persuade Mohamed to go back to their religion and leave the Quran.
    28-86 And you were not expecting that the Book would be conveyed to you, but [it is] a mercy from your Lord. So do not be an assistant to the disbelievers.
    28-87 And never let them avert you from the verses of Allah after they have been revealed to you. And invite [people] to your Lord. And never be of those who associate others with Allah .


    7- Kill The disbelievers wherever we find them (Sura 2:191)
    Again out of Contest. You didn’t write the complete Aya and left the 1 before and the 2 after. It states clearly, that the fight is with those who attack the Muslim state. And even there: Muslims shouldn’t go off limits
    2-190. And fight in the Way of Allah [COLOR="Red"]those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors[/COLOR]
    2-191. And kill them wherever you find them, [COLOR="Red"]and turn them out from where they have turned you out[/COLOR]. And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Haram ( Makkah), [COLOR="Red"]unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you[/COLOR], then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
    2-192. [COLOR="Red"]But if they cease, then Allah is Oft-Forgiving[/COLOR], Most Merciful.
    2-193. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah and worship is for Allah. [COLOR="Red"]But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against the wrong-doers.[/COLOR]



    8- 9:29 [And] fight against those (Al-La-Zina) who - despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime] -do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon them] till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand, after having been humbled [in war].
    This is one is long Sura on Non-believers and enemies of the first Islamic state. It goes on and on but Aya 9:4 set the limits:
    9-4 [COLOR="Red"]Except those of the Non-Beleievrs with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term[/COLOR]
    Last edited by moaz; 08-21-2014 at 05:07 PM.

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    Oh no, the copy and paste warriors are out in full force!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10
    Oh no, the copy and paste warriors are out in full force!
    If you mean me: not that it matters, but no copy and paste here.
    I just completed the individual sentences and added the next/previous ones, I used 2 different Quran websites to do that (if you need any links). Oh, I added the verse numbers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10
    Oh no, the copy and paste warriors are out in full force!
    Funny that you wait until the Muslim posters come in and win the debate, but say nothing to the atheists copying and pasting. Typical

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    I was talking about the c&p queen on the first page.

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    ignorant idiots like pedo and graviton getting owned big time in this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chewing
    Here's a video just obliterating everything you just posted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xCdehrV96U


    Terrorists that want to do harm to others are applying true Islam that was practiced by Mohammed and his followers in the early stages of Islam.

    Moderate Muslims ignore these quotes of violence towards nonbelievers or apostates when they read the Quran, but are quick to support it if the extremists get to close to them. That's why moderate Islam does not have a spokesperson marching down the streets condemning all this violence. They simply just live in fear.

    And here is proof of the earliest accounts of beheadings by Mohammed and his followers in what's dubbed, "The Massacre at Banu Qurayza".
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza

    One more time for the blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdaman99
    Islam is a beautiful religion badly misrepresented by a large amount of It's followers.

    The End.
    I have visited Islamic countries and have seen mosques (Istanbul specifically). The culture is beautiful and my god the architecture .

    Don't hate a religion because a group of radicals. EVERY religion has it's good and bad people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosnian Sajo
    Typical
    I know I'm a day late but wtf bro?

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