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    ISH vigilant Mr Feeny's Avatar
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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by feyki
    Basketball is team sport .
    So Larry Bird is a better defender than Michael Jordan?
    And more than 3 times a better defender than Lebron James?

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by feyki
    Basketball is team sport .
    All metrics are good if you know what they represent, how to use them and whats their limitation.

    Otherwise it can be used to mislead people, like it was done with PER (and it became a joke stat, not because it is, but because how its misused), and thats what you are doing here with defensive rating

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    So Larry Bird is a better defender than Michael Jordan?
    And more than 3 times a better defender than Lebron James?
    Bird played as PF first half of his career . Oliver looks technically and he overrate rebounding . I don't think Bird was better defensive player than Jordan . But I think he had better defensive impact than Lebron . Lebron's athleticism and lockdown defence overrated his defensive impact .

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Harison
    All metrics are good if you know what they represent, how to use them and whats their limitation.

    Otherwise it can be used to mislead people, like it was done with PER (and it became a joke stat, not because it is, but because how its misused), and thats what you are doing here with defensive rating
    Correct .

    I didn't say anything about Defensive Rating . I did just share .

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Feeny
    So Larry Bird is a better defender than Michael Jordan?
    And more than 3 times a better defender than Lebron James?
    First no, second yes

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    Crazy that Timmy has 0 DPOYs on his mantle.
    1. no monkeyball/fake emotion/self promotion => no media love
    2. always had great results => no "new" factor
    3. also very heavy competition (early 00s ben wallace and kg, late 00s peak dwight howard).

    still marc gasol camby, artest, noah were just bad picks .. clearly inferior to duncan.

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Gileraracer
    First no, second yes
    ****tard

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    Default Re: Players With Most Top 10 Defensive Rating Season

    Quote Originally Posted by BigTicket
    Here's how the all-time great perimeter players do by this metric

    Bird - 6

    Jordan - 4

    Lebron - 2

    Kobe - 0

    Magic - 0
    Kind of kills the significance of the stat. Though looking at an anchor could be different. Team defenders never do to well with that stat either. How does Pippen do?

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