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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by SyRyanYang
    Obviously Kobe had a decent supporting cast and the team was well coached and had great chemistry. But only haters would tell you that team was stacked. Just look at how many players are still active apart from Kobe and Pau.
    Well this is the REAL factual truth, but I like to hear the BS from those who are set out to discredit Kobe, it's funny to me and I'm bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Take a L when my FACTUAL clear Raw player-by-player facts prove I'm correct?...What planet you from bruh?

    I'm like Roy Jones Jr. in the 88' Olympics and you like the Asian and the Judges, I clearly won but ya bias is getting the best of you..
    You certainly have a high view of yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Get ethered on the thread topic with facts, and then jump to something that isn't relevent to the thread topic, classic, where'd you learn that?
    Not relevant? Hardly...you brought up only Bynum's finals instead of his run. So I assumed that the finals averages really mattered a lot to you. If not...just say so.

    I'll post it again as you have trouble with this stuff:

    Bynum 9/7/1 17.3 PER
    Tyson Chandler 8/9/0 15.2 PER


    Who was better?

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    Bynum changed Rondo's game completely.. He was attacking the basket all playoffs until bynum repetitvely changed his shot and kept him out of the key.

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Lets try this Brans.

    Player A:

    26/5/5 22.4 PER

    Player B:

    25/10/3 24 PER

    Player C:

    21/12/3 24.6 PER

    Player D:

    28/9/7 27.4 PER


    Now, the only reason you'll rank your favorite player as the best here is because of the exact reasons you accuse others of. Hence why you honestly shouldn't be taken seriously. You aren't remotely consistent.

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    OP, using your logic who had more help....


    Kobe in the 2009 playoffs

    Pau Gasol 18/11/3/1/2 on 58/-/71. 21.9 PER
    Lamar Odom 12/9/2/1/1 on 52/52/61. 18.0 PER
    Ariza 11/4/2/2/0 on 50/48/56. 14.7 PER


    Or


    LeBron in the 2013 playoffs

    Wade 16/5/5/2/1 on 46/25 (1-4)/75. 18.7 PER
    Bosh 12/7/2/1/2 on 46/41/73. 16.8 PER
    Ray Allen 10/3/1/1/0 on 43/41/87. 14.4 PER

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    Lets try this Brans.

    Player A:

    26/5/5 22.4 PER

    Player B:

    25/10/3 24 PER

    Player C:

    21/12/3 24.6 PER

    Player D:

    28/9/7 27.4 PER


    Now, the only reason you'll rank your favorite player as the best here is because of the exact reasons you accuse others of. Hence why you honestly shouldn't be taken seriously. You aren't remotely consistent.
    Nah, if we ranking single season and not career then Player D clearly had a better year...so what now?

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Who is the coach of Cast A and Cast B ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Nah, if we ranking single season and not career then Player D clearly had a better year...so what now?
    That is what a career is made up of.

    So if you go year by year....Lebron beats out Kobe in most years....yet you rank Kobe as the better player? This makes no sense at all unless your only reason for taking Kobe over Lebron is that he's played longer.

    Is that your only reason? I thought you said Kobe was a better basketball player than Lebron.

    I'm confused. Please clear this up.

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    Lets try this Brans.

    Player A:

    26/5/5 22.4 PER

    Player B:

    25/10/3 24 PER

    Player C:

    21/12/3 24.6 PER

    Player D:

    28/9/7 27.4 PER


    Now, the only reason you'll rank your favorite player as the best here is because of the exact reasons you accuse others of. Hence why you honestly shouldn't be taken seriously. You aren't remotely consistent.
    Who are those? A is Kobe and D is LeBron?

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    OP, using your logic who had more help....


    Kobe in the 2009 playoffs

    Pau Gasol 18/11/3/1/2 on 58/-/71. 21.9 PER
    Lamar Odom 12/9/2/1/1 on 52/52/61. 18.0 PER
    Ariza 11/4/2/2/0 on 50/48/56. 14.7 PER


    Or


    LeBron in the 2013 playoffs

    Wade 16/5/5/2/1 on 46/25 (1-4)/75. 18.7 PER
    Bosh 12/7/2/1/2 on 46/41/73. 16.8 PER
    Ray Allen 10/3/1/1/0 on 43/41/87. 14.4 PER
    Kobe in 09' playoffs...

    It's not like Bosh was gonna be effective with LeBron turning him into a spot up 3pt shooter due to the fact that Bron needed spacing...If Bosh played with Kobe that same year...Bosh 19ppg 9reb 48%fg...

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    Who are those? A is Kobe and D is LeBron?
    B is Dirk

    C is Duncan

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Kobe in 09' playoffs...

    It's not like Bosh was gonna be effective with LeBron turning him into a spot up 3pt shooter due to the fact that Bron needed spacing...If Bosh played with Kobe that same year...Bosh 19ppg 9reb 48%fg...
    Both Bosh and Gasol would have scored 19 ppg?

    Do you realize how stupid this argument is?

    Odom:

    19/12/4 in 06 and 07....

    So why don't you hate on Kobe for turning Odom into a 11/9/2 player the years they won titles?

    Again...don't you hate being so inconsistent?

    It really doesn't bother you at all?
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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Quote Originally Posted by DMAVS41
    That is what a career is made up of.

    So if you go year by year....Lebron beats out Kobe in most years....yet you rank Kobe as the better player? This makes no sense at all unless your only reason for taking Kobe over Lebron is that he's played longer.

    Is that your only reason? I thought you said Kobe was a better basketball player than Lebron.

    I'm confused. Please clear this up.
    Career vs Career= Numbers combined with Accolades and winning

    Single season vs Single season= Numbers and team winning record combined

    That single season, Bron was better than Kobe...

    Career, Bron slightly better raw stats, Kobe more All-Star app, All-NBA, All-Defensive, More Titles, More All-Time Playoff points and stls, not even debatable..

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    Default Re: Better Playoff Supporting Cast...

    Moving the goalposts.


    When your own argument favors LeBron "b-b-b-but LeBron ball doe "


    I could easily say "Kobe ball" accounts for Odoms and Bynums playoff stats

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