LeBron says Tim Duncan is most dominant of last 15 years.

[chazzy]

The 2012-2013 is strongly arguable since TD reached NBA finals.

Kobe reached the finals in 02 and 04 also.. doesn't mean he's better

[dh144498]

2 reasons lebron is saying this:
1. he's facing Tim Duncan and the Spurs
2. he wants to rub it in Kobe's face, since deep down inside, Lebron knows Kobe was the most dominant in the last 15 years.

[PickernRoller]

Duncan better from 99-03(01 is close either way), Kobe better from 04-13

Fixed.

[SCdac]

lol @ the only people disagreeing being the usual Kobetard suspects.

Bron is right, of course.

Yeah the animosity and resentment coming from Kobe stans on ISH is getting to be an all time high... how many threads can kobe nut huggers derail?

Lebron is right. Look at Duncan's win-%. Look at how many times his teams have missed the playoffs. Look at separation in years he's lead championship teams (99 to 07) as the best player. Look at the GM surveys acknowledging his value. Back-to-Back MVPs. His current status as one of the best big men. Anybody starting a franchise would pick TD over Kobe.

[K Xerxes]

2 reasons lebron is saying this:
1. he's facing Tim Duncan and the Spurs
2. he wants to rub it in Kobe's face, since deep down inside, Lebron knows Kobe was the most dominant in the last 15 years.

3. Duncan was the most dominant player in the last 15 years.

Answer: 3.

[dh144498]

Yeah the animosity and resentment coming from Kobe stans on ISH is getting to be an all time high... how many threads can kobe nut huggers derail?

Lebron is right. Look at Duncan's win-%. Look at how many times his teams have missed the playoffs. Look at separation in years he's lead championship teams (99 to 07) as the best player. Look at the GM surveys acknowledging his value. Back-to-Back MVPs. His current status as one of the best big men. Anybody starting a franchise would pick TD over Kobe.

bu bu bu bu but i thought "winning is a team accomplishment." So now Duncan is the most dominant because of the win% of his team?

And how is winning chips more spread apart better than winning consecutive chips?
If i remember correctly, besides 2006, Shaq and Kobe were the reasons why the Spurs never got to repeat. 2000, 2004, 2008.

[SilkkTheShocker]

2 reasons lebron is saying this:
1. he's facing Tim Duncan and the Spurs
2. he wants to rub it in Kobe's face, since deep down inside, Lebron knows Kobe was the most dominant in the last 15 years.

I didn't know dominant players lost missed the playoffs in their prime playing with Lamar Odom and Caron Butler.

[dh144498]

3. Duncan was the most dominant player in the last 15 years.

Answer: 3.

arguable. But it comes down to opinions. I don't have problems with people who say Duncan because it's pretty close overall.

[K Xerxes]

arguable. But it comes down to opinions. I don't have problems with people who say Duncan because it's pretty close overall.

The fact that a relentless Kobe troll admits it's pretty close means it's not close at all and Duncan was definitely the most dominant player. Thanks.

[sc19]

There's no argument whatsoever.

[tpols]

Yeah the animosity and resentment coming from Kobe stans on ISH is getting to be an all time high... how many threads can kobe nut huggers derail?

Lebron is right. Look at Duncan's win-%. Look at how many times his teams have missed the playoffs. Look at separation in years he's lead championship teams (99 to 07) as the best player. Look at the GM surveys acknowledging his value. Back-to-Back MVPs. His current status as one of the best big men. Anybody starting a franchise would pick TD over Kobe.

And many would take Russel or Kareem over MJ.. not because MJ wasnt better, but because big men are a more steady investment.

Duncan averaged what? 12/10 for a few years before this one.. his team won 55-60 games each time with Parker being the best player on the team. How does that speak to Duncan as an individual? It speaks to SAS as a franchise and, to a smaller degree the production of Tony Parker.

[dh144498]

it's funny, everyone who always disliked the championship argument when comparing players always say "winning is a team effort."
But in this thread, you see the same people bringing up winning% and missing playoffs. What happened to the "winning is a team effort" argument?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Dirk and Wade both said Kobe was the last 15 years. Just saying...

[dh144498]

The fact that a relentless Kobe troll admits it's pretty close means it's not close at all and Duncan was definitely the most dominant player. Thanks.

yeah, anyone who disagrees is now a troll. Ok, you certainly win this argument. Very well argued.

[SCdac]

bu bu bu bu but i thought "winning is a team accomplishment." So now Duncan is the most dominant because of the win% of his team?

And how is winning chips more spread apart better than winning consecutive chips?
If i remember correctly, besides 2006, Shaq and Kobe were the reasons why the Spurs never got to repeat. 2000, 2004, 2008.

Are MVPs team accomplishments? Finals MVPs?

did you even read my whole post or are you going to settle for nitpicking? .. dominance takes into account individual and team accomplishments. NBA is not one on one.

Besides, Win-% only accounts for games Duncan has played in, so it's not like he's reaping the benefits of Spurs wins he wasn't a part of.

How can winning chips spread apart not be construed as dominance over a period of time (ie. 15 years)? You mean to tell me if player x win 2 championships in a row then say falls off the map, that's the same as a player maintaining a certain level of excellence over time?