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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Example:
MJ scored 50 points in Game 1 of the 1988 First Round against Ron Harper and Cleveland's 5th-ranked defense - then he scored 55 in Game 2, but only by using every scoring method available against a Cleveland defense that was focused on preventing a repeat performance.
In Game 2, MJ used his JJ Redick catch-and-shoot game for almost all his points, but also showcased his Adrian Dantley/Mark Aguirre triple-threat game, his Hakeem post game, and his Gary Payton primary ballhandler/point-guard game..
MJ is the only player in history that is elite in all these areas - that's why he always scored at a GOAT level no matter the defense.
Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06ly1eN4tI
Btw, game 1 and game 2 of the 1998 First Round is the only time in history anyone had back-to-back 50 point playoff games.
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Why the fk do you keep pushing this agenda? Most of this board accepts MJ as the goat, only the trolls/AARP residents dont.
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Future NBA G.O.A.T
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371556
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by 3ball
Jordan
Okay.
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Durant is great at scoring in every way. Catch and shoot, slashing, fast break, isolation, off the dribble, you name it. But 2014 Durant is also the GOAT scorer.
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MH!
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
Durant is great at scoring in every way. Catch and shoot, slashing, fast break, isolation, off the dribble, you name it. But 2014 Durant is also the GOAT scorer.
You just went full retard. Never go full retard.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=370101
3ball got wrecked so hard in that thread.
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by aj1987
32 ppg on +9.2% over league average shooting in a 93.9 pace season? Yes, that is the GOAT scoring regular season. Quite easily as well.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
32 ppg on +9.2% over league average shooting in a 93.9 pace season? Yes, that is the GOAT scoring regular season. Quite easily as well.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
In the 61/62 season, Wilt averaged 17.8 ppg more than the 2nd leading scorer (Bellamy since Baylor didn't play enough games). He shot 8% better than the league average.
Jordan has the next best ppg season to Wilt's top 3 at 37.1. That's still 13.3 ppg behind the 61/62 season. Meanwhile, Melo was 4.6 ppg behind Durant last season. That's about 14.4%.
In 61/62, Wilt outscored the next (official) leading scorer by around 35%. He outscored Jordan's best by about 26%.
Wilt had the best scoring season ever, period.
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by Marchesk
In the 61/62 season, Wilt averaged 17.8 ppg more than the 2nd leading scorer (Bellamy since Baylor didn't play enough games). He shot 8% better than the league average.
Jordan has the next best ppg season to Wilt's top 3 at 37.1. That's still 13.3 ppg behind the 61/62 season. Meanwhile, Melo was 4.6 ppg behind Durant last season. That's about 14.4%.
In 61/62, Wilt outscored the next (official) leading scorer by around 35%. He outscored Jordan's best by about 26%.
Wilt had the best scoring season ever, period.
Is there no way to account for pace? BBref didn't have any per-100 stats, so I'm assuming that the necessary data is missing.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by Joyner82reload
Durant is great at scoring in every way.
what a ****ing joke durant gets shut down by chris paul because he has a below-average post game, actually, no post game - so unlike Jordan, Durant is NOT elite at everything.
that's why he gets shut down in the playoffs - he's a perimeter player that can't physically bang and overpower inside the way MJ, Magic, and Bird could.
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RIP P
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by Marchesk
In the 61/62 season, Wilt averaged 17.8 ppg more than the 2nd leading scorer (Bellamy since Baylor didn't play enough games). He shot 8% better than the league average.
Jordan has the next best ppg season to Wilt's top 3 at 37.1. That's still 13.3 ppg behind the 61/62 season. Meanwhile, Melo was 4.6 ppg behind Durant last season. That's about 14.4%.
In 61/62, Wilt outscored the next (official) leading scorer by around 35%. He outscored Jordan's best by about 26%.
Wilt had the best scoring season ever, period.
You're not factoring in the fact that there were much more possessions and opportunities to score back then.
And Jordan's '87 season isn't even his best scoring season, his '88 season is the best scoring season ever.
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Wilt Davis
Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by 24-Inch_Chrome
Is there no way to account for pace? BBref didn't have any per-100 stats, so I'm assuming that the necessary data is missing.
Right, the point is that Wilt outscored the next leading scorer by a massive percentage. Even if you put Baylor's ppg in their, it's still big. And despite the high pace era, nobody in the 60s outside of Wilt made it to 40 ppg in the regular season.
Don't get me wrong. Durant was amazing last year. I just don't see how it's the best regular scoring season ever. It's not like people haven't scored 32 in the past, while shooting above league average.
What Wilt did has never even been approached again.
Last edited by Marchesk; 03-24-2015 at 05:21 PM.
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
Originally Posted by 3ball
what a ****ing joke durant gets shut down by chris paul because he has a below-average post game - so unlike Jordan, Durant is NOT elite at everything.
that's why he gets shut down in the playoffs - he's a perimeter player that can't physically bang and overpower inside the way MJ, Magic, and Bird could.
PPG goes up but he gets shut down in the playoffs? It's true that his efficiency drops but I think that he keeps his volume high to create offensive rebounds for his teammates.[COLOR="White"] (decreased efficiency = good teammate for creating more offensive rebounds is probably 3ball's stupidest argument ever)[/COLOR]
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Re: Adjusting to a defense requires scoring versatility (elite)
So OP's point is MJ was an elite player? Wow, so insightful.
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