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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by ninephive
    Tim Duncan 2003 Postseason:
    24.7 PPG, 15.4 RPG, 5.3 APG, 3.3 BPG, 0.6 SPG, on 52.9% shooting.

    Blake Griffin 2015 Postseason:
    25.5 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 6.1 APG, 1.0 BPG, 1.0 SPG, on 51.1% shooting.

    Duncan's is obviously more impressive because he did it through the Finals, but Blake had a postseason for the ages.
    I wonder why a Spur fan would be comparing this 2-round collapse to an all-time great playoff run. I hope you'll see the difference between them when compared to their team mates - take a look at the load Duncan carried compared to Griffin.

    2003 Postseason:
    Duncan 28.4 PER 57.7 TS% 5.9 WS 11.6 BPM
    Parker 14.7 pts / 2.8 rebs / 3.5 asst 40.3% 11.9 PER 46.8 TS% 1.1 WS -1.8 BPM
    SJax 12.8 pts / 4.1 rebs / 2.7 asst 41.4% 12 PER 52.9 TS% 1.3 WS 1.6 BPM
    Manu 9.4 pts / 3.8 rebs / 2.9 asst 38.6% 15 PER 52.2 TS% 2.1 WS 4.7 BPM

    2015 Post season:
    Griffin 24.7 PER 55.7 TS% 2.1 WS 6.4 BPM
    Paul 22.1 pts / 4.4 rebs / 8.8 asst 50.3% 25.6 PER 62.7 TS% 2.3 WS 4.3 BPM
    Jordan 13.1 pts / 13.4 rebs / 2.4 asst 71.6% 20.7 PER 61 TS% 1.9 WS 7.6 BPM
    Reddick 14.9 pts / 2.1 rebs / 1.7 asst 43.5% .5 WS -.2 BPM
    Crawford 12.7 pts / 2.1 rebs / 1.9 asst 36% -.02 WS -4.1 BPM
    Last edited by rmt; 05-19-2015 at 06:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by DFish24
    Like I was saying, Griffin played at a level in these playoffs that KG simply never reached.
    Kobe stans just aren't smart.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    I wonder why a Spur fan would be comparing this 2-round collapse to an all-time great playoff run.
    This thread has more to do with Chris Paul than Blake Griffin and Tim Duncan.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    There is something we like to call "Defense".




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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by ninephive
    Duncan's is obviously more impressive because he did it through the Finals, but Blake had a postseason for the ages.
    apples to oranges

    It was a totally different league back then


    2003 Spurs Pace Factor -> 91.0 / Points Per Game -> 94.8

    2015 Clippers Pace Factor -> 98.7 / Points Per Game -> 107.8


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    apples to apples


    2003 Duncan BPM 11.6 / WS48 .279 / PER 28.4

    2015 Duncan BPM 7.7 / WS48 .230 / PER 24.1

    2015 Griffin BPM 6.4 / WS48 .179 / PER 24.7

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Duncan won though.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    My bad guys, I didn't think I titled this thread, "Griffin's Postseason was better than Duncan's in 2003."

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by Prime_Shaq
    Duncan won though.
    Thanks for reminding me of what I wrote in the first post.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximandro1
    apples to oranges

    It was a totally different league back then


    2003 Spurs Pace Factor -> 91.0 / Points Per Game -> 94.8

    2015 Clippers Pace Factor -> 98.7 / Points Per Game -> 107.8


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    apples to apples


    2003 Duncan BPM 11.6 / WS48 .279 / PER 28.4

    2015 Duncan BPM 7.7 / WS48 .230 / PER 24.1

    2015 Griffin BPM 6.4 / WS48 .179 / PER 24.7
    Thanks for reminding me that certain advanced stats were not as comparable as the raw stats.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    There is something we like to call "Defense".



    Thanks for reminding me that Duncan had a greater defensive impact because I must have missed it sitting in the seats at the 2003 Finals.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by rmt
    I wonder why a Spur fan would be comparing this 2-round collapse to an all-time great playoff run. I hope you'll see the difference between them when compared to their team mates - take a look at the load Duncan carried compared to Griffin.

    2003 Postseason:
    Duncan 28.4 PER 57.7 TS% 5.9 WS 11.6 BPM
    Parker 14.7 pts / 2.8 rebs / 3.5 asst 40.3% 11.9 PER 46.8 TS% 1.1 WS -1.8 BPM
    SJax 12.8 pts / 4.1 rebs / 2.7 asst 41.4% 12 PER 52.9 TS% 1.3 WS 1.6 BPM
    Manu 9.4 pts / 3.8 rebs / 2.9 asst 38.6% 15 PER 52.2 TS% 2.1 WS 4.7 BPM

    2015 Post season:
    Griffin 24.7 PER 55.7 TS% 2.1 WS 6.4 BPM
    Paul 22.1 pts / 4.4 rebs / 8.8 asst 50.3% 25.6 PER 62.7 TS% 2.3 WS 4.3 BPM
    Jordan 13.1 pts / 13.4 rebs / 2.4 asst 71.6% 20.7 PER 61 TS% 1.9 WS 7.6 BPM
    Reddick 14.9 pts / 2.1 rebs / 1.7 asst 43.5% .5 WS -.2 BPM
    Crawford 12.7 pts / 2.1 rebs / 1.9 asst 36% -.02 WS -4.1 BPM
    Thanks for reminding me that Duncan's supporting cast wasn't as good as Blake's, because that's the point I was making apparently.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    It's much easier to score in today's NBA, tbh


    2003 Duncan Offensive Rating --> 116

    2014 Duncan Offensive Rating --> 120

    2015 Duncan Offensive Rating --> 125

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    Quote Originally Posted by SCdac
    13 ppg & 9 rpg in 31 mpg for a 38 year old player is nothing to scoff at though ... you're misconstruing why I picked the last few games of a series (2003 Finals - in particular), vs. any few games from any series of any year.
    Thanks for reminding me that Duncan gets a pass because he was 38, but Parker doesn't because he was 21 (an age Duncan never experienced in the NBA).

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque



    It's pathetic how little defense is respected by most fans.

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    Default Re: Griffin's Postseason Numbers were 2003 Duncan-esque

    OP is just saying BG had a good postseason. Jesus you Duncan vampires are sensitive.

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