#5 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

What do you call that? Ether?

[Hands of Iron]

. The voting is done guys. There's no need to argue

Oh, there's plenty!

This thread is killing both the threads for #6 & #7 on activity long after it's been closed to voting. See, for all the talk of popularity contests and "it's just a forum" we see that the Top 5 is extremely coveted and people are angry about it because Bird beat Wilt.

[jlauber]

What do you call that? Ether?

And ity gets worse, too.

Kareem won ONE rpg title in his 20 seasons, and he barely beat out the 6-9 Cowens to do it. Players like the 6-7 Unseld and the 6-7 Silas were challenging him.

Chamberlain won ELEVEN rebounding titles in his 14 seasons (and had he not been injured in '70, he surely would have won #12.)

Kareem was ROUTINELY outrebounded in the post-season. Unseld, Wilt twice, Moses (by TEN per game), hell, his teammate and GUARD Magic was outrebounding him.

Meanwhile, Chamberlain just CRUSHED his peers in the post-season. 29-29 in his 29 post-season series.

[Deuce Bigalow]

And ity gets worse, too.

Kareem won ONE rpg title in his 20 seasons, and he barely beat out the 6-9 Cowens to do it. Players like the 6-7 Unseld and the 6-7 Silas were challenging him.

Chamberlain won ELEVEN rebounding titles in his 14 seasons (and had he not been injured in '70, he surely would have won #12.)

Kareem was ROUTINELY outrebounded in the post-season. Unseld, Wilt twice, Moses (by TEN per game), hell, his teammate and GUARD Magic was outrebounding him.

Meanwhile, Chamberlain just CRUSHED his peers in the post-season. 29-29 in his 29 post-season series.

Post their rebounds out of the total rebounds of their prime in the Playoffs

Just posts Wilt's atleast

[Hands of Iron]

And ity gets worse, too.

Kareem won ONE rpg title in his 20 seasons, and he barely beat out the 6-9 Cowens to do it. Players like the 6-7 Unseld and the 6-7 Silas were challenging him.

Chamberlain won ELEVEN rebounding titles in his 14 seasons (and had he not been injured in '70, he surely would have won #12.)

Kareem was ROUTINELY outrebounded in the post-season. Unseld, Wilt twice, Moses (by TEN per game), hell, his teammate and GUARD Magic was outrebounding him.

Meanwhile, Chamberlain just CRUSHED his peers in the post-season. 29-29 in his 29 post-season series.

Greater Athlete: Chamberlain or Jim Brown?

[jlauber]

Greater Athlete: Chamberlain or Jim Brown?

I have seen many lists that rank Brown as one of the all-time greatest athletes, and yet, those same "lists" usually ignore Chamberlain.

Brown was a great football player, a great track athlete, and a great lacrosse player (whatever that was.)

Chamberlain was an even more dominant basketball player, perhaps FASTER and MORE athletic than Brown, by the middle of the 60's was stronger, according to Hank Stram was All-Pro material in football, was an exceptional volleyball player, and has two legitimate contracts to fight Ali.

Wilt also ran marathons and had legitimate NBA contract offers even to 50 years of age.

[Hands of Iron]

I have seen many lists that rank Brown as one of the all-time greatest athletes, and yet, those same "lists" usually ignore Chamberlain.

Brown was a great football player, a great track athlete, and a great lacrosse player (whatever that was.)

Chamberlain was an even more dominant basketball player, perhaps FASTER and MORE athletic than Brown, by the middle of the 60's was stronger, according to Hank Stram was All-Pro material in football, was an exceptional volleyball player, and has two legitimate contracts to fight Ali.

Wilt also ran marathons and had legitimate NBA contract offers even to 50 years of age.

Yeah, Sportscentury kept him out of the top ten. Their list circa 1999:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Babe Ruth
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Jim Brown
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Jesse Owens
7. Jim Thorpe
8. Willie Mays
9. Jack Nicklaus
10. Babe Zaharias
11. Joe Louis
12. Carl Lewis
13. Wilt Chamberlain
14. Hank Aaron
15. Jackie Robinson
16. Ted Williams
17. Magic Johnson
18. Bill Russell
19. Martina Navratilova
20. Ty Cobb
21. Gordie Howe
22. Joe DiMaggio
23. Jackie Joyner-Kersee
24. Sugar Ray Robinson
25. Joe Montana
26. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
27. Jerry Rice
28. Red Grange
29. Arnold Palmer
30. Larry Bird
31. Bobby Orr
32. Johnny Unitas
33. Mark Spitz
34. Lou Gehrig
35. Secretariat
36. Oscar Robertson
37. Mickey Mantle
38. Ben Hogan
39. Walter Payton
40. Lawrence Taylor
41. Wilma Rudolph
42. Sandy Koufax
43. Julius Erving
44. Bobby Jones
45. Bill Tilden
46. Eric Heiden
47. Edwin Moses
48. Pete Sampras
49. O. J. Simpson
50. Chris Evert

[jlauber]

Yeah, Sportscentury kept him out of the top ten. Their list circa 1999:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Babe Ruth
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Jim Brown
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Jesse Owens
7. Jim Thorpe
8. Willie Mays
9. Jack Nicklaus
10. Babe Zaharias
11. Joe Louis
12. Carl Lewis
13. Wilt Chamberlain
14. Hank Aaron
15. Jackie Robinson
16. Ted Williams
17. Magic Johnson
18. Bill Russell
19. Martina Navratilova
20. Ty Cobb
21. Gordie Howe
22. Joe DiMaggio
23. Jackie Joyner-Kersee
24. Sugar Ray Robinson
25. Joe Montana
26. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
27. Jerry Rice
28. Red Grange
29. Arnold Palmer
30. Larry Bird
31. Bobby Orr
32. Johnny Unitas
33. Mark Spitz
34. Lou Gehrig
35. Secretariat
36. Oscar Robertson
37. Mickey Mantle
38. Ben Hogan
39. Walter Payton
40. Lawrence Taylor
41. Wilma Rudolph
42. Sandy Koufax
43. Julius Erving
44. Bobby Jones
45. Bill Tilden
46. Eric Heiden
47. Edwin Moses
48. Pete Sampras
49. O. J. Simpson
50. Chris Evert

Wilt at #13 was an absolute joke. Wayne Gretzky owns something like 69 hockey records. Chamberlain's could easily be in the HUNDREDS depending on just how far you want to carry scoring streaks. And had blocked shots, offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, percentages, et.al been tracked, he would likely have dozens more.

Of course where is Kobayashi the hot-dog eater on that stupid list?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt at #13 was an absolute joke. Wayne Gretzky owns something like 69 hockey records. Chamberlain's could easily be in the HUNDREDS depending on just how far you want to carry scoring streaks. And had blocked shots, offensive rebounds, defensive rebounds, percentages, et.al been tracked, he would likely have dozens more.

Of course where is Kobayashi the hot-dog eater on that stupid list?

So mad

[jlauber]

So mad

Even as ridiculous as that list was, it beats your Top- lists? Wilt is at least #2 on THAT list.

[Hands of Iron]

The Associated Press List:

1. Babe Ruth
2. Michael Jordan
3. Jim Thorpe
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Wayne Gretzky
6. Jim Brown
7. Joe Louis
8. Jesse Owens
9. Babe Didrikson Zaharias
10. Wilt Chamberlain
11. Willie Mays
12. Jack Nicklaus
13. Ted Williams
14. Ty Cobb
15. Pele
16. Bill Russell
17. Lou Gehrig
18. Hank Aaron
19. Joe DiMaggio
20. Martina Navratilova
21. Carl Lewis
22. Gordie Howe
23. Sugar Ray Robinson
24. Larry Bird
25. Ben Hogan
26. Oscar Robertson
27. Red Grange
28. Walter Payton
29. Jackie Robinson
30. Rod Laver
31. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
32. Magic Johnson
33. Arnold Palmer
34. Sandy Koufax
35. Mickey Mantle
35. Mark Spitz
37. Joe Montana
38. Jack Dempsey
39. Bobby Orr
40. Jackie Joyner-Kersee
41. Billie Jean King
42. Walter Johnson
43. Sammy Baugh
44. Rocky Marciano (tie)
44. Johnny Unitas
46. Stan Musial
47. Bobby Jones
48. Rogers Hornsby
49. Honus Wagner
50. Jerry Rice

[Legends66NBA7]

Wayne Gretzky should have been Top 3, at least, on both of those lists.

[1987_Lakers]

Sugar Ray Robinson > Ali

[Hands of Iron]

Sugar Ray Robinson > Ali

I was just about to say nobody got more robbed than SRR on these.

Seriously, Jack Nicklaus? A ****ing golfer. No disrespect, but Please...

[scandisk_]

I was just about to say nobody got more robbed than SRR on these.

Seriously, Jack Nicklaus? A ****ing golfer. No disrespect, but Please...

SRR is the GOAT pugilist IMO. Well, Clay can always have the 2nd spot.