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Old 09-27-2013, 08:38 PM   #1
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Default Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

Read recently that a lot of scouts believe Cam is as good as he's going to get, at the age of 24. Panthers are currently last in passing yardage. I'd doubt he could get any better as a runner.

Has Cam already peaked?
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

I don't see how. He's really gifted physically with his size, athleticism and arm strength so he does posses alot of raw ability and he's not limited with his skillset.

What seems to be stopping him is the mental part of the game and that's something players can get better at. Put him under a gifted offensive mind and that can easily change. Panthers strike me as a team that doesn't have the best coaches around.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

His accuracy and ball placement haven't gotten better since he came into the league, that's what is holding him back.

He can run, throw it as hard as he wants and make some wow plays...... but until the accuracy and ball placement get better, he's always going to remain the type of player he currently is.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

It really depends on Cam.

He has all the physical tools to succeed.

Is he willing to put in the work to learn how to read defenses?
Is he going to keep giving up when it gets tough? Or atleast hide his fustrations better
Is he going to become a leader?

Its all up to him.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

i agree he is the most gifted QB in the league in terms of raw ability. so no he has not lived up to his potential yet and so no he hasnt peaked.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

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i agree he is the most gifted QB in the league in terms of raw physical ability. so no he has not lived up to his potential yet and so no he hasnt peaked.

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A guy like peyton manning was more gifted coming out of college.

there were more doubts about Newton coming out of college, than peyton coming out of college.

also peak and potential are not necessarily related.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:12 PM   #7
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

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His accuracy and ball placement haven't gotten better since he came into the league, that's what is holding him back.

He can run, throw it as hard as he wants and make some wow plays...... but until the accuracy and ball placement get better, he's always going to remain the type of player he currently is.

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Old 09-30-2013, 05:52 PM   #8
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

Not in the least. He is surrounded by a bonehead coaching staff that is Ron Rivera and Company.

And I would call it rather unfair to judge cam this harsh this early considering his stats which aren't all that bad.

Imagine if Cam was in San Fran or Seattle. FROM DAY ONE he was asked much more of him than Russell Wilson or Kaep or Griff are even today as a passer. He's played only three games this season, two of which he played well in. 6:2 TD-INT ratio with a +90 passer rating so far this year is not enough evidence to say the man has failed. If the Panthers were 2-1 right now instead of 1-2 this thread wouldn't even exist.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:11 PM   #9
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Not in the least. He is surrounded by a bonehead coaching staff that is Ron Rivera and Company.

And I would call it rather unfair to judge cam this harsh this early considering his stats which aren't all that bad.

Imagine if Cam was in San Fran or Seattle. FROM DAY ONE he was asked much more of him than Russell Wilson or Kaep or Griff are even today as a passer. He's played only three games this season, two of which he played well in. 6:2 TD-INT ratio with a +90 passer rating so far this year is not enough evidence to say the man has failed. If the Panthers were 2-1 right now instead of 1-2 this thread wouldn't even exist.
The thread has nothing to do with whether Cam has failed or not. The question is has he reached his full potential already.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

This is gonna piss off the Panthers fans but I think Steve Smith or Cam's respect for Smith has kind of been holding back Cam. The way he b*tches at his young QB every time he thinks he's open (even when he's not) is part of the reason Cam keeps making bad decisions trying to thread a pass to him instead of looking for the others. After Smith got shaken up last game Cam started looking for his other receivers and dominating. Smith was even mad and throwing up his arms after Cam threw a touchdown pass to Lafell.
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

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Not in the least. He is surrounded by a bonehead coaching staff that is Ron Rivera and Company.

And I would call it rather unfair to judge cam this harsh this early considering his stats which aren't all that bad.

Imagine if Cam was in San Fran or Seattle. FROM DAY ONE he was asked much more of him than Russell Wilson or Kaep or Griff are even today as a passer. He's played only three games this season, two of which he played well in. 6:2 TD-INT ratio with a +90 passer rating so far this year is not enough evidence to say the man has failed. If the Panthers were 2-1 right now instead of 1-2 this thread wouldn't even exist.

I agree with you. Plus besides the instability from coaching he's been playing behind a line that is average at best and he only really has 2 dependable receiving options; 34 year old Steve Smith and his tight end Olsen.

And even with all that in mind he still produces. Yes his record hasn't been great, but many of those losses have not been his fault. Just look at the 2 L's this year; had Deangelo not fumbled down 12 to 7 with us driving in the 4th quarter against Seattle and if Luke Kuechly didn't get a pass interference penalty that nullified an interception on the play before the game-winning TD against Buffalo we would be 3-0.

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This is gonna piss off the Panthers fans but I think Steve Smith or Cam's respect for Smith has kind of been holding back Cam. The way he b*tches at his young QB every time he thinks he's open (even when he's not) is part of the reason Cam keeps making bad decisions trying to thread a pass to him instead of looking for the others. After Smith got shaken up last game Cam started looking for his other receivers and dominating. Smith was even mad and throwing up his arms after Cam threw a touchdown pass to Lafell.

Also agree with this. Its weird because when Cam got drafted I expected Smith to be his biggest fan, but its always seemed as if he's been the quickest player on the team to criticize Cam.
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Old 10-02-2013, 11:51 AM   #12
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Default Re: Has Cam Newton "peaked"?

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The thread has nothing to do with whether Cam has failed or not. The question is has he reached his full potential already.
try to react to the actual points that do respond to the thread
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