Trade Rumor: Andrew Bynum for Chris Bosh

[ZeN]

Use your brains fellas, please.

If Bosh was traded to LA he would NOT opt out this summer and get a 3 yr extension as well.

The problem with comments like this is that people act as if Buss isnt already pushing it, when it comes to the money he shells. Lakers have the highest payroll in the L and he has to pay 20+ mil in luxury tax alone. Its illogical to say 'oh but hes rich and hes making a ton of cash off the Lakers' because hes still a business man who's bottom line is getting paid.

Its true that he would sign an extension.. but Buss has to sign off on it first, which isn't necessarily a given.

[D-Rose]

How much does that extension cost though?

He'd probably get an extension just like Gasol got. 3 years 60 million.

[D-Rose]

The problem with comments like this is that people act as if Buss isnt already pushing it, when it comes to the money he shells. Lakers have the highest payroll in the L and he has to pay 20+ mil in luxury tax alone. Its illogical to say 'oh but hes rich and hes making a ton of cash off the Lakers' because hes still a business man who's bottom line is getting paid.

Its true that he would sign an extension.. but Buss has to sign off on it first, which isn't necessarily a given.

If you're paying similar money for Andrew Bynum for those years, why not have a much better player making only a bit mroe money on your roster?

Not to mention the Lakers will have some ugly contracts gone soon, Fisher and Morrison this yr. Sasha the next.

[ZeN]

He'd probably get an extension just like Gasol got. 3 years 60 million.

So thats about 8 mill more a year than Bynum.. PLUS 8 more mill in luxury tax.. making it a totall of 16 more than Drew per year.

[ZeN]

If you're paying similar money for Andrew Bynum for those years, why not have a much better player making only a bit mroe money on your roster?

They are not similar in money numbers, particularly if you are looking at LuxTax.

Not to mention the Lakers will have some ugly contracts gone soon, Fisher and Morrison this yr. Sasha the next.

Fisher will only take off 5mil off the books. True Morrison will be gone, but under your deal he would probably be included in the swap to match salaries, since Bynum is a BYC player. And Sasha will still be taking up 5 mil for a year which is considerable.

Plus with both Farmar and Fisher being free agents and even Shannon to a certain extent (players option) The Lakers will be forced to sign one of those two, or scavenger for a point guards, both options that would have the Lakers spending additional cash.

[lilgodfather1]

Although the Lakers are over the cap, Bosh would retain his Bird Rights, which would make LAL eligible to re-sign their own player to a maximum contract for up to 6 years. Bosh would retain his bird rights because he has been with TOR for at least 3 consecutive years.

Although the above scenario would work, LAL will have to pay $1 for $1 spent over the salary cap. That would be quite the expense.

Bosh would end up costing the Lakers about 33 million dollars if you account for the luxury tax, that and i'm sure the Lakers will resign Farmar and Morrison, each of whicch will probobally cost them at least 4-5 million each without the luxury tax, so about 20 million combined, plus they would have to resign Fisher, again for around 4-5 million and again will cost about 10 million. So by adding Bosh to the books the Lakers wouldnt just be adding 6 million (approximate difference between Bynums and Boshs upgraded contract including luxury tax). They would also be adding about 30 million dollars which would be about 66 million dollars. The Lakers are far over the cap, in fact with Bosh, Gasol and Kobe they exceed the cap.

[D-Rose]

So thats about 8 mill more a year than Bynum.. PLUS 8 more mill in luxury tax.. making it a totall of 16 more than Drew per year.

But look at Fisher/Morrison, that's like 11 mill off the books and Sasha is 5 mill off the books the following year. Since we're playing with luxury tax that's also twice each being shaved off.

Our payroll for 10-11 would be something like
Kobe 24 mill
Bosh 17 mill
Gasol 17 mill
Odom 8 mill
Ron 5 mill
Sasha 5 mill
Luke 5 mill
Brown 2 mill

Then let's say draft picks/Mbenga/Powell/Fish/FA signings come out to 7 mill, the total payroll would be:

90 million aka 1 million less than this year.

It's not like the payroll is 125 million

EDIT: In a potential trade it'd be Bynum/Farmar/Morrison/Sasha for Bosh/Weems/Banks to make it work.

Banks has a similar contract tin $ and length to Sasha and Weems is a minimum guy.

[ZeN]

Bosh would end up costing the Lakers about 33 million dollars if you account for the luxury tax, that and i'm sure the Lakers will resign Farmar and Morrison, each of whicch will probobally cost them at least 4-5 million each without the luxury tax, so about 20 million combined, plus they would have to resign Fisher, again for around 4-5 million and again will cost about 10 million. So by adding Bosh to the books the Lakers wouldnt just be adding 6 million (approximate difference between Bynums and Boshs upgraded contract including luxury tax). They would also be adding about 30 million dollars which would be about 66 million dollars. The Lakers are far over the cap, in fact with Bosh, Gasol and Kobe they exceed the cap.

You comment is way off base..

[D-Rose]

Bosh would end up costing the Lakers about 33 million dollars if you account for the luxury tax, that and i'm sure the Lakers will resign Farmar and Morrison, each of whicch will probobally cost them at least 4-5 million each without the luxury tax, so about 20 million combined, plus they would have to resign Fisher, again for around 4-5 million and again will cost about 10 million. So by adding Bosh to the books the Lakers wouldnt just be adding 6 million (approximate difference between Bynums and Boshs upgraded contract including luxury tax). They would also be adding about 30 million dollars which would be about 66 million dollars. The Lakers are far over the cap, in fact with Bosh, Gasol and Kobe they exceed the cap.

Fisher would be lucky to get more than a minimum or BAE contract around the league and Morrison may be headed to the D-League.

[ZeN]

But look at Fisher/Morrison, that's like 11 mill off the books and Sasha is 5 mill off the books the following year. Since we're playing with luxury tax that's also twice each being shaved off.

Our payroll for 10-11 would be something like
Kobe 24 mill
Bosh 17 mill
Gasol 17 mill
Odom 8 mill
Ron 5 mill
Sasha 5 mill
Luke 5 mill
Brown 2 mill

Then let's say draft picks/Mbenga/Powell/Fish/FA signings come out to 7 mill, the total payroll would be:

90 million aka 1 million less than this year.

It's not like the payroll is 125 million

EDIT: In a potential trade it'd be Bynum/Farmar/Morrison/Sasha for Bosh/Weems/Banks to make it work.

Banks has a similar contract tin $ and length to Sasha and Weems is a minimum guy.

This post is filled with a great amount of assumptions. Many of which are coming off as wishful thinking.


Who is going to be the starting PG and backup SG? Dont you think those will be addressed? And when they are, that means more money out of pocket.

You cant be sure that Bosh will want to accept the same amount as Gasol.
You are not taking Bryants contract extention into account, which hasnt even been formulated yet.

You throw out a trade proposal that has no factual basis, just wishful thinking.

Plus, you could end up getting a totally unforeseen occurrence. When Gasol was being traded for Buss wanted to include Odom so that he wouldnt have to pay as much. However The Grizz where the ones that were stuck on Kwames contract. So you cant act like money aint an issue.

[D-Rose]

This post is filled with a great amount of assumptions. Many of which are coming off as wishful thinking.


Who is going to be the starting PG and backup SG? Dont you think those will be addressed? And when they are, that means more money out of pocket.

You cant be sure that Bosh will want to accept the same amount as Gasol.
You are not taking Bryants contract extention into account, which hasnt even been formulated yet.

You throw out a trade proposal that has no factual basis, just wishful thinking.

Plus, you could end up getting a totally unforeseen occurrence. When Gasol was being traded for Buss wanted to include Odom so that he wouldnt have to pay as much. However The Grizz where the ones that were stuck on Kwames contract. So you cant act like money aint an issue.

Of course it's all hypotheticals at this point, and I don't think the trade will happen. I was merely trying to prove the Lakers cap situation wouldn't be that different from now.

And yeah PG situation will be very interesting to see this summer. I wonder if there's any FAs that could fill our needs. Fish could legit retire and even if he comes back he should be a bench guy.

Farmar will be gone that's for sure someone will overpay him.

[xtn5021]

That trade has just as much a chance as Carmelo going to the Warriors...

[ashbelly]

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