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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    look at these autistic guys trying to argue that collude doesn't fit the exact definition of what lebrons did

    stop examining the websters definition, it wont do you any good, lebron colluded, get over it

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    look at these autistic guys trying to argue that collude doesn't fit the exact definition of what lebrons did

    stop examining the websters definition, it wont do you any good, lebron colluded, get over it

    Take a break from the Internet. All you do is post on here all day, every day.

    Yeah, let's not trust the dictionary that has been in existence for centuries. Keep hating a man you will never know. The hate for LeBron James is pathetic now. I think the only autistic guy here is you.

    Cavs beat the Warriors, get over it.

    *waiting on you to login and say meltdown since you can't debate worth a shit*

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan
    look at these autistic guys trying to argue that collude doesn't fit the exact definition of what lebrons did

    stop examining the websters definition, it wont do you any good, lebron colluded, get over it
    That's not how the world works. You really need to do something that doesn't involve being on this forum all the time, dude.

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by Piccolo
    Take a break from the Internet. All you do is post on here all day, every day.

    Yeah, let's not trust the dictionary that has been in existence for centuries. Keep hating a man you will never know. The hate for LeBron James is pathetic now. I think the only autistic guy here is you.

    Cavs beat the Warriors, get over it.

    *waiting on you to login and say meltdown since you can't debate worth a shit*
    ok "piccolo"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Derka
    That's not how the world works. You really need to do something that doesn't involve being on this forum all the time, dude.
    you have 5 posts a day and I have 6 posts a day

    I thought white people were good at math

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by bukowski81
    In the definition of the Merriam Webster dictionary it clearly does not have to be illegal

    Simple Definition of collusion
    : secret cooperation for an illegal or dishonest purpose

    Full Definition of collusion
    : secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    colluding doesn't have to be illegal.. "secret cooperation for an illegal OR dishonest purpose." the dishonest part leaves the clause open to interpetation, and it can be construed that the best players all joining up in the same weakened conference is "dishonest" to the sport.. to competition.. to integrity of the game. This was sentiment at the time.
    and that's why the NBA has rules and penalties about dishonest purposes. meaning lebron, bosh and wade did nothing dishonest by the fair-practice rules and standards of the game.

    didn't clyde drexler, charles barkley and scottie pippen get together with hakeem olajuwon on the rockets to try to win some championships back in the 90's. how'd that work out? were people calling them "colluders" at the time?

    who even came up with the idea of using "collusion," anyway? the average NBA fan probably doesn't have much clue what the word is, meaning some media personality likely deliberately misused it and then the fans latched on to it... and now you have people saying in this thread "well, the definition turned in to what we wanted it to mean a few years ago."

    if the word "collude" didn't exist, then how would you describe how the superfriends got together in miami?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLDFSU
    Players cannot collude. If Lin, Parsons, and Mario Chambers wanted to get together an NBA owner does not have to sign any of them. Players have ZERO ability to sign themselves.

    If the Heat and Knicks get together to steer a player onto one team that would be collusion. Again, players cannot collude.
    This is not true at all in reality, only in theory and technicality and naive minds.

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by gigantes
    didn't clyde drexler, charles barkley and scottie pippen get together with hakeem olajuwon on the rockets to try to win some championships back in the 90's. how'd that work out? were people calling them "colluders" at the time?

    they dont catch as much flak because they were old and exiting their prime ... then the Boston Big 3 took it a bit further with KG, PP and Ray all still prime, but end prime, and then Big 3 Miami took it to next level with their triple peak collusion, all players in dead middle of their primes.

    i guess you could call it the evolution of collusion.


    Quote Originally Posted by gigantes
    if the word "collude" didn't exist, then how would you describe how the superfriends got together in miami?
    bitchassness ... ? idk.. collude sounds more professional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigantes
    and that's why the NBA has rules and penalties about dishonest purposes. meaning lebron, bosh and wade did nothing dishonest by the fair-practice rules and standards of the game.

    didn't clyde drexler, charles barkley and scottie pippen get together with hakeem olajuwon on the rockets to try to win some championships back in the 90's. how'd that work out? were people calling them "colluders" at the time?

    who even came up with the idea of using "collusion," anyway? the average NBA fan probably doesn't have much clue what the word is, meaning some media personality likely deliberately misused it and then the fans latched on to it... and now you have people saying in this thread "well, the definition turned in to what we wanted it to mean a few years ago."

    if the word "collude" didn't exist, then how would you describe how the superfriends got together in miami?
    I think what's missing here is that the word collude is just a way to negatively portray star players teaming up to achieve a goal.

    You can see it positively too, that they care very much about winning and want to achieve it by any means necessary.

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    The word these clowns are looking for is "conspire". The thing is, it doesn't roll off the tongue as well so they keep parroting the incorrect term repeatedly without putting forth an ounce of effort into what could be considered an original or rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having been repeatedly exposed to it. I award them no points, and may God have mercy on their souls.

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    bitchassness ... ? idk.. collude sounds more professional.
    and THAT'S pretty much my point.

    like, the biggest whiners upon lebron tend to be the same ones who throw around the word "collude" without even knowing what it actually means.

    in the end, isn't that sort of like a hungry lap-dog begging for another treat...?

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by gigantes
    and THAT'S pretty much my point.

    like, the biggest whiners upon lebron tend to be the same ones who throw around the word "collude" without even knowing what it actually means.

    in the end, isn't that sort of like a hungry lap-dog begging for another treat...?
    you've been given the definition .. it's not that hard.. the definition is extremely broad and open to interpretation. the term "dishonest" is subjective.. you keep refering back to official league rules but we try to explain already that dishonest can mean something outside rules.. you take it too literally.

    It's like.. if a country has no monopoly rules, and three giant competitors merge.. is it colluding? sure it is. it's not illegal but still economically dishonest.

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    they dont catch as much flak because they were old and exiting their prime ... then the Boston Big 3 took it a bit further with KG, PP and Ray all still prime, but end prime, and then Big 3 Miami took it to next level with their triple peak collusion, all players in dead middle of their primes.

    i guess you could call it the evolution of collusion.




    bitchassness ... ? idk.. collude sounds more professional.
    You dumb ass...Ray Allen wasn't in his prime anymore...he was 32 coming off of double ankle surgeries in that 2008 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke117
    You dumb ass...Ray Allen wasn't in his prime anymore...he was 32 coming off of double ankle surgeries in that 2008 season.
    way to nitpick b!tch.. as a group they were end prime.. stop distracting from the point

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    Default Re: What is the definition of "collude," anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    way to nitpick b!tch.. as a group they were end prime.. stop distracting from the point
    You don't have a point besides bitching about Lebron like you always do.

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