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Good High School Starter
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by Duncan21formvp
And outscored everyone in every series in his career.
Jordan's Bulls, why pretend to be a Spurs fan?
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Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
I see people still pull the series was out of reach excuse againsr the Sonics. How about we call it for what it really was.
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Bankai
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Impact on the game > Stats...
Even though Jordan have a poor shooting specially in sonics and knicks series, but the impact that he brings in the game is unbelievable.
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Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by Da_Realist
Game 3 -- not only did Jordan almost have a triple double (22, 8, 11, 2, 2) but the Bulls led by 11 points after the 1st Quarter, 19 points after the 2nd Quarter and 23 points after the 3rd Quarter. When did the Bulls need more from him this game?
Game 6 -- shot poorly, but still had 9 assists. I'd say this was a sub par game for him but it definitely wasn't a bad series in general.
Game 1 -- bad game
Game 2 -- shot poorly but almost led the team to a comeback win when Scottie was ejected
Game 3 -- see above
Game 4 -- 54 points
Game 5 -- Triple Double, controlled the game from start to finish. Had 11 or 12 assists going into the 4th Quarter
Game 6 -- see above
Not a bad series at all. One of my favorites, actually.
:EDIT Games 4 and 5 were PANTHEON type games. They should count extra. Any series that have 2 games like Games 4 and 5 should never count as a "bad series"
Yes, that's the only thing that matters to some of you.
Oh I don't think that way. That's the way a lot of posters think on here. Low FG% = bad game/series.
I like to look beyond simple FG%
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
85: Bucks
87: Celtics
88: Pistons
89: Pistons
90: Pistons
92: Knicks
96: Magic, Sonics
97: Hawks, Heat
29/9/6 on 57% TS% as a rookie is bad????
36/6/6 on 43/40/90 (53% TS%) is bad??? Those stats kill Kobe's Finals MVP...which I'm sure you call a great series.
And those are just the first 2 named. Won't even bother checking the rest.
Dayum, by those standards there are very few "good" playoff series in NBA history.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
So now shooting 43%(In the 80's, mind you) is considered "good", because its Jordan.
Let's not forget he had the benefit of a short 3 point line in 95/96/97
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
So now shooting 43%(In the 80's, mind you) is considered "good", because its Jordan.
Let's not forget he had the benefit of a short 3 point line in 95/96/97
Shooting 43% with 40% 3FGA and 90% FT on 13 free throws a game and 36 ppg is bad? Answer straight forward. No one said it was "good" but it sure as hell isn't bad. It is pretty good though considering the defense he was playing and the teammates he had. Context genius. But answer honestly, 36/7/6 on 43/40/90 is bad? I know for a fact you won't answer, because by saying yes you admit that too many of Kobe's series are bad as well.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Considering the era, YES 43% is bad no matter what. You're acting like dude was htting 6 3's a game.....
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Considering the era, YES 43% is bad no matter what. You're acting like dude was htting 6 3's a game.....
I didn't ask if 43% was bad. I asked if 36/7/6 on 43/40/90 was bad. Nice selectivity though...
And what does era matter if it was all against one team, one team that has a better defensive rating than the majority of teams today...but yeah, era...
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Pistons used to allow more PPG than Nash/Dirk Mavs
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Pistons used to allow more PPG than Nash/Dirk Mavs
Great. We're talking about the Celtics and defensive rating, not points allowed. Points allowed depends on pace, FG% depends on defensive rating, and you're talking about FG%. Why bring up total points allowed? Stay on subject buddy.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Pace definitely affects fg%, you're going to have more fast break opportunities, more open lanes, more energy will be committed to offense instead of defense etc.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by eliteballer
Pace definitely affects fg%, you're going to have more fast break opportunities, more open lanes, more energy will be committed to offense instead of defense etc.
Doesn't matter if the defensive rating is high. That's what defensive rating does, it rates DEFENSE, including the FG% given up. Way to go around the topic though. Love how you still didn't answer the question.
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by Dave3
I didn't ask if 43% was bad. I asked if 36/7/6 on 43/40/90 was bad. Nice selectivity though...
And what does era matter if it was all against one team, one team that has a better defensive rating than the majority of teams today...but yeah, era...
he put that as a bad series?
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Why does everyone act like MJ never had a bad playoff series?
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
he put that as a bad series?
Yup....
And 29/9/6 as a rookie...
And those are just the first two...didn't even bother anything else after that.
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