Why did Kobe fail to win a playoff series without Shaq before Pau showed up?

[Bankaii]

Players considered better than Kobe have led more talent than he had those years to worse records...

Is this a shot at Kareem?

[bobopenguin]

Cos Kobe had no 3 referees and David stern to help, like lebron.

[Bankaii]

Cos Kobe had no 3 referees and David stern to help, like lebron.

Did you really just bring up Lebron in a thread that has absolutely NOTHING to do with him?

So obsessed

[warriorfan]

Did you really just bring up Lebron in a thread that has absolutely NOTHING to do with him?

So obsessed

cumguzzy is the one who brought up bron in the 2nd post of the topic

[knicksman]

only losers respect bran

[BlkMambaGOAT]

West was stacked, every playoff team was well over the .500 mark, meanwhile the East at the time was still being played at a house league level.

[JebronLames]

Kobe didn't have the it factor.

[Cone]

Best ****ing poster on this site.

[bobopenguin]

cumguzzy is the one who brought up bron in the 2nd post of the topic

get them!

[CAstill]

The main reason was because there wasn't enough time. Pau came in the third season of Kobe being the man, leading to his team to the best record in the west before pau even got there . He got beat by the suns and caught them twice in a row. That team was no joke.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. Shaq w/o Kobe= 1 ring.

Pau w/o Kobe= 0 rings.

Ariza/bynum/Odom w/o Kobe= 0 rings

Ray w/o Bron= 1 ring

Wade w/o= 1 ring

Basically a trend. The "most dominant player ever" had the most successful only when paired with Kobe Bryant.

Ray Allen, one of the greatest shooters ever, found success before Bron.

Wade, the 3rd/4th best SG ever found success long before Bron.

[Mr Feeny]

Interesting, One more question


Did Kobe start his first two seasons?

Nope. He wasn't good enough. He was a bench player/scrub.

Even after that, as a starter in 1999 he had 3 airballs in game winning attempts against Utah as the Lakers got spanked.
The following year, he shot 36%fg from the field in the finals vs Indiana including a horrific 4-20 shooting game for 8 points.
Kobe during his first 4 years wasn't even worth discussing.

Lethick in his 4th year lead d-leaguers to the finals almost single handedly

[SouBeachTalents]

Lol. Shaq w/o Kobe= 1 ring.

Pau w/o Kobe= 0 rings.

Ariza/bynum/Odom w/o Kobe= 0 rings

Ray w/o Bron= 1 ring

Wade w/o= 1 ring

Basically a trend. The "most dominant player ever" had the most successful only when paired with Kobe Bryant.

Ray Allen, one of the greatest shooters ever, found success before Bron.

Wade, the 3rd/4th best SG ever found success long before Bron.

It could also be he spent the majority of his prime, including his peak seasons, when he was teammates with Kobe

And the Ray Allen example is stupid considering he won his title as 3rd option

[scuzzy]

Nope. He wasn't good enough. He was a bench player/scrub.

Even after that, as a starter in 1999 he had 3 airballs in game winning attempts against Utah as the Lakers got spanked.
The following year, he shot 36%fg from the field in the finals vs Indiana including a horrific 4-20 shooting game for 8 points.
Kobe during his first 4 years wasn't even worth discussing.

Lethick in his 4th year lead d-leaguers to the finals almost single handedly

Jesus

Thanks for the info

[scuzzy]

It could also be he spent the majority of his prime, including his peak seasons, when he was teammates with Kobe

And the Ray Allen example is stupid considering he won his title as 3rd option

Or the fact that Shaq did have deep playoff success prior to being paired with Kobe and afterwards also