is Kyrie Irving the most overrated player in the league?

[TonyMontana]

After Kobe of course.

Since drafting him.
Cleveland 202: 21-45(.318)
Cleveland 2013: 24-58(.292)

No improvement as a team into year 2. They actually got worse.

"But he was hurt!!!!"

Here is Clevelands record with him playing.

2012: 17-34(.333)
2013: 19-40(.322)

Alright a LITTLE better, but still only winning about 33% of the games, in otherwords still garbage.

He was hurt for almost the entirety of his college career too. This guy is just injury prone. He makes no impact defense, he requires the ball in his hands to do anything. What is so good about this guy. Doesn't effect the win totals at all. Another small ball dominant guard that doesn't make the impact to winning that Sportscenter and uneducated fans would lead you to believe.

[LikeABosh]

Ive watched a fair amount of him and hes a terrible defender

[RedBlackAttack]

One sure sign that a player is beginning to arrive is the formation of a group of haters (and I despise that word). There are a couple of posters here now devoting significant time to disparaging Irving. I expect that number to grow as he continues to improve.

This is a great sign.

[Johnny Jones]

Jesus christ. Just ban this fool already.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Not at all. But at the same stage, he's on a path faster than LeBron's.

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron>>>Kobe

[Rose'sACL]

I do think his health is a big issue which is one of the main reasons i think Westbrook is the best PG in the league. CP3 looks like he is playing hurt for most of the season otherwise he could be the best PG by a big margin.

[Marchesk]

LeBron>>>Kobe

funny troll

[miggyme1]

Bums dont know greatness when they see it. Kyrie is pretty much a younger cp3. Got the vision,the handles, the shooting touch, only thing i question is the leadership. U cant expect a 19 year old to come into the nba and be stellar defensively. It takes time. Lebron was garbage on defense when he first entered the league. Michael jordan was as well. Give the man some time to grow damn.

[Wally450]

Kyrie's the real deal, keep sleeping on him.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Bums dont know greatness when they see it. Kyrie is pretty much a younger cp3. Got the vision,the handles, the shooting touch, only thing i question is the leadership. U cant expect a 19 year old to come into the nba and be stellar defensively. It takes time. Lebron was garbage on defense when he first entered the league. Michael jordan was as well. Give the man some time to grow damn.

I really like kyrie but cp3 is/was a much better passer.

[KyleKong]

Not overrated, remember LeBron's Cavs didn't make the playoffs the first two seasons of his career.

Kyrie is such an awful defender it baffles me that someone with that much talent can be that bad at on-ball and help defense.

He's a good All-Star, but not exactly a franchise player.

[SmackOrH.A.K]

No, paul george is.

[retaxis]

apart from all the things Kyrie could do lets not forget he won the god damn 3 point championship and the previous year won the rookie/sophmore event with 8 3s without missing. This guy can shoot and dribble and thats a true threat.

[RedBlackAttack]

Not overrated, remember LeBron's Cavs didn't make the playoffs the first two seasons of his career.

Kyrie is such an awful defender it baffles me that someone with that much talent can be that bad at on-ball and help defense.

He's a good All-Star, but not exactly a franchise player.

He played the majority of last season as a 20-year-old and averaged 23/6/4 on 45/86/40. You're really ready to make that kind of statement?