LeBron is declining or he will be soon

[JamiesChrist]

Wishful thinking. Gonna be epically hilarious on ISH when Bron wins his third straight FMVP.

[TheCorporation]

Could've sworn Bron outplayed KD in their recent head-to-head match. I believe he scored more points, on less FGA, AND had a higher FG%

[GOATbe]

Agreed, his game isnt aging well at all. He'll probably retire very soon cus he doesn't want his career stats to plummet.

[Sharmer]

Sorry folks, can't argue with history

He's currently at 37958 minutes played for regular season and postseason Kobe was at 37519 at the beginning of the 2008-09 NBA season
Jordan was at 35934 at the beginning of the 1996-97 NBA season
KG was at 37998 at the beginning of the 2007-08 NBA season
Duncan was at 36203 at the beginning of the 2008-09 NBA season
Shaq was at 36785 at the beginning of the 2004-05 NBA season
Kareem was at 38947 at the beginning of the 1980-81 NBA season
Wilt was at 36872 at the beginning of the 1968-69 NBA season
Bird was at 34731 at the beginning of the 1988-89 NBA season
Magic got AIDS
Barkley was at 34316 at the beginning of the 1995-96 NBA season
Hakeem was at 38702 at the beginning of the 1996-97 NBA season
Dr. J was at 38814 at the beginning of the 1981-82 NBA season
Oscar was at 35436 at the beginning of the 1970-71 NBA season
West was at 35372 at the beginning of the 1971-72 NBA season

deluded, the gods don't decline.

[Dbrog]

This is actually an eye-popping stat to me. I guess I still always think of Bron as a young dude with many years of prime left but he might only have 3 or 4 left of championship quality years. Then again, when somebody says ten years ago to me, I instantly want to say 1990-something...I guess my time sense has been pretty thrown off these past few years.

[chazzy]

Could've sworn Bron outplayed KD in their recent head-to-head match. I believe he scored more points, on less FGA, AND had a higher FG%

Did Durant outplay Lebron in the '12 finals?

[Wang Zhi Zhi]

hes played more minutes than any player before the age of 30 in NBA history

[Sharmer]

He's in peak fitness, never had any real serious injures. He's got another decade in him.

[LeGOAT]

Lebron is coasting, it's true whether you like it or not. Heat or coming of back to back championships, it's human nature to start to get a bit complacent after such success, especially during the long and at times meaningless regular season, especially when Lebron has already won 4 reg. season MVPs. He's also playing the fewest minutes of his career. Anyways, let us look at his per 36 stats this season compared to career avg. stats to see how much he's "declined"

PPG: +0.5

ASG: -0.1

RPG: even

SPG: -0.3

BPG: -0.4

fg%: +8%

Only major "decline" is steals and blocks which comes back to lack of effort and coasting.

[KG215]

Kobe was still a 27/6/6 player last season with a total of 54,000 minutes played. You should be more worried about Durant peaking at age 25.

What Durant is doing in his age 25 season isn't out of the norm compared to other all-time greats. Best statistical season does not equal a player's peak.

Barring something drastic, Durant will likely only improve to some extent over the next 3-5 seasons...just like about every other all-time great.

[buddha]

or maybe because he's conserving energy to try to go to his 4th straight finals?

yeah because that's how energy works. do you honestly believe that saving energy in january will have any effect on his energy levels come may?

[buddha]

Lebron is coasting, it's true whether you like it or not. Heat or coming of back to back championships, it's human nature to start to get a bit complacent after such success, especially during the long and at times meaningless regular season, especially when Lebron has already won 4 reg. season MVPs. He's also playing the fewest minutes of his career. Anyways, let us look at his per 36 stats this season compared to career avg. stats to see how much he's "declined"

PPG: +0.5

ASG: -0.1

RPG: even

SPG: -0.3

BPG: -0.4

fg%: +8%

Only major "decline" is steals and blocks which comes back to lack of effort and coasting.

lmao he has declined in every statistical category INCLUDING PPG and REB. It should read..

PPG: -1.2

REB: -0.4

hey atleast he is efficient doe.

[Mr. Jabbar]

op brings a great thread with hard statistical evidence, some ppl are just shook at those facts

[KG215]

Could've sworn Bron outplayed KD in their recent head-to-head match. I believe he scored more points, on less FGA, AND had a higher FG%

2012 Finals...

Durant: 30.6 PPG on 55/39/84 shooting

LeBron: 28.6 PPG on 47/19/83 shooting


I guess Durant outplayed LeBron in the Finals, then.

[TheCorporation]

2012 Finals...

Durant: 30.6 PPG on 55/39/84 shooting

LeBron: 28.6 PPG on 47/19/83 shooting


I guess Durant outplayed LeBron in the Finals, then.

...

Could've sworn we were talking about 2013. Durant is the king of second place. Do we really need to revisit the past to prove my point? lol