Is LeBron on par with Kobe with another ring/Finals MVP?

[D.J.]

Most would agree that Kobe is somewhere around 10 on the all-time list right now. If LeBron wins another ring and/or Finals MVP, does that put him at least on par with Kobe? In addition, we'll assume LeBron doesn't win MVP and neither does Kobe, but earns All-NBA 1st team and All-NBA Defensive 1st team. With Kobe, let's say he's on the All-NBA 2nd team and no All-Defensive team. This is how it would look:


Kobe(in 17 seasons)
-5 rings
-2 Finals MVP's
-1 MVP
-10 All-NBA 1st teams
-2 All-NBA 2nd teams
-2 All-NBA 3rd team
-9 All-NBA Defensive 1st teams
-3 All-NBA Defensive 2nd teams


LeBron(in 10 seasons)
-2 rings
-2 Finals MVP's
-3 MVP's
-7 All-NBA 1st teams
-2 All-NBA 2nd teams
-0 All-NBA 3rd teams
-5 All-Defensive 1st teams
-0 All-Defensive 2nd teams


And this is with LeBron playing in 7 fewer seasons.

[ripthekik]

[Vienceslav]

There is a thread about this.

[9erempiree]

no.

but once Kobe retires, I can see Lebron being the next Kobe.

Unfortunately we have already found our next Kobe in Lebron. It will be his mantle.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Another title and finals mvp playing similar to and/or better than this past playoff run? Definitely in the discussion.

[Hank]

"on par" ?? lol

Lebron is light years better than Kobe "the stringbean" ever was

[Dictator]

No. 3 titles and Lebron equals or passes Kobe. Kobe's 3rd title was 100% legit 1b to Shaq 1a. MVP is a different story it isn't a clear cut.

[code green]

Kobe > LeBron

That's not going to change no matter what LeBron does.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Lebron would NOT be on par with his idol, Kobe Bryant.
Lebron needs a lot more winning and no more choking.

[9erempiree]

Another reason why he would not be on par with Kobe is Kobe's magnitude on the game and the world.

He is as loved and hated as Michael Jordan. MJ was a global icon and so is Kobe.

Lebron doesn't have that affect on people.

Kobe is the modern day MJ.

Lebron doesn't come close as those two in the history of the NBA.

[REACTION]

I'd say it would put him in the Kobe stratosphere, but I don't think it would break LeBron into the top 10 yet. It'd get him a lot closer though and would be very impressive for his career.

[lbj23clutch]

Add a another mvp and a dpoy along with another ring/finals mvp and then we have a discussion.


Something like this:

4 MVP's, 2 ring's, 2 finals MVP's and 1 DPOY

[lebeast666]

lol Kobrick still relevant? Kobe is Lebrons b!tch When Lebron wins fmvp and ring next year he would have surpassed Kobe even though he's already been better than Kobrick ever was.

[kennethgriffin]

its number of rings by mvp winners

not number of mvps by ring winners



moses malone = 3 mvps, 1 ring

ranked below guys like

hakeem olajuwon = 1 mvp, 2 rings
shaquille o'neal = 1 mvp, 4 rings
tim duncan = 2 mvps, 4 rings


see the trend

the only guy whos higher than 10th all time that only has 2 rings is wilt... and thats because he averaged like 30/20 career and 10 theoretical blocks... put up 100 in a game and averaged 50/25 for a season

[Heavincent]

Nope.