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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by Heat007
    --- This is from the start of the 08 season. since then Kobe Bryant's percentages are even lower in comparison to Jordan. There is no comparison between the two. One was a far miore efficient and better all around player. The other is a shot jacker. ----


    Games with under 50% shooting

    Michael Jordan: 43% of games
    Kobe Bryant: 65% of games ( this is updated to the present)

    Games with under 48% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 437 (41% of games)
    Kobe Bryant: 470 (62% of games)

    Games with under 46% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 360 (33% of games)
    Kobe Bryant: 417 (53% of games)

    Games with under 44% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 288 (1 out of every 4 games)
    Kobe Bryant: 353 (1 out of every 2 games)

    Games with under 42% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 228 (1 out of every 5 games)
    Kobe Bryant: 307 (2 out of every 5 games)

    Games with under 40% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 154 (1 out of every 7 games)
    Kobe Bryant: 246 (1 out of every 3 games)

    Games with under 35% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 85 (8 out of every 100 games)
    Kobe Bryant: 156 (20 out of every 100 games)

    Games with under 30% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 39 (1 out of every 28 games)
    Kobe Bryant: 81 (1 out of every 10 games)

    Games with 70% or better shooting
    Michael "Air" Jordan: 23 (1 out of every 45 games)
    Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 5 (1 out of every 160 games)

    Games with 60% or better shooting
    Michael "Air" Jordan: 160 (1 out of every 7 games)
    Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 53 (1 out of every 15 games)

    Games with 50% or better shooting
    Michael "Air" Jordan: 504 (1 out of every 2 games)
    Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 203 (1 out of every 4 games)

    Games with 20 shots made on 60% or better shooting
    MJ: 15
    Kobe: 3

    Games with 15 shots made on 60% or better shooting
    MJ: 77
    Kobe: 17

    Games with 15 shots made on 50% or better shooting
    MJ: 174
    Kobe: 45

    Games with 50 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
    MJ: 3
    Kobe: 0

    Games with 40 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
    MJ: 27
    Kobe: 15

    40 point games with less than 5 three point attempts
    MJ: 156 (9 out of 10 40 pt games)
    Kobe: 26 (3 out of 10 40 pt games)

    Games with 40 points and under 50% shooting
    MJ: 27 (16% of his 40 pt games)
    Kobe: 40 (47% of his 40 pt games)

    Games with 40 points and under 45% shooting
    MJ: 13 (8% of his 40 pt games)
    Kobe: 18 (21% of his 40 pt games)

    Games with 40 points and under 40% shooting
    MJ: 2 (1% of his 40 pt games)
    Kobe: 7 (8% of his 40 pt games)

    Almost half of Kobe's 40 point games involved missing more shots than making them.

    Kobe has also taken the most shot attempts EVER to score 50 points in a game.

    Kobe is also the only player in history who failed to score 50 points when taking 45 or more shots

    50 point games with under 50% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 1 of his 31 games (15-31, 48% in the only one he was under 50%)
    Kobe Bryant: 9 of his 21 games

    50 point games with under 45% shooting
    Michael Jordan: 0
    Kobe Bryant: 3

    Yes...and MJ also played most of his career in a completly differnt era when talking about defense and FG%...

    This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

    Michael Jordan - 6 times
    Chris Mullen - 6 times
    Adrian Dantley - 4 times
    Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
    Reggie Miller - 3 times
    James Worthy - 3 times
    Alex English - 3 times
    Dale Ellis - 3 times
    Magic Johnson - 2 times
    Penny Hardaway - 2 times
    Kevin Johnson - 2 times
    Clyde Drexler - 2 times
    Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
    Mark Aguirre - 2 times
    Gary Payton - once
    Byron Scott - once
    Rolando Blackman - once
    Walter Davis - once
    Jeff Hornacek - once
    Otis Birdsong - once
    Jeff Malone - once
    George Gervin - once
    Drazen Petrovic - once
    Reggie Lewis - once
    Derek Smith - once
    Scottie Pippen - once



    And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).

    Lebron James - once
    Chris Paul - once
    Tony Parker - once
    Monta Ellis - once
    Shawn Marion - once


    So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.

    In the last 11 years, it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players.

    here are the league averages for all the years MJ shot over 50%.

    88' - 48%
    89' - 47.7%
    90' - 47.6%
    91' - 47.4%
    92' - 47.2%

    And here are the league averages in the post-MJ era.

    00' - 44.9%
    01' - 44.3%
    02' - 44.5%
    03' - 44.2%
    04' - 43.9%
    05' - 44.7%
    06' - 45.4%
    07' - 45.8%
    08' - 45.7%
    09' - 45.9%
    10' - 46.1%


    so looking at this MJ's and Kobe's FG% is marginal at best.

    also......TS% difference in both players is 1.7%

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
    ...simple question..."why don't you just show how many MJ had at the similar age"...Kobe aint scoring 50 playing 15 minutes a game at 18 - 19 years old.


    @ Jordan stans
    you are as studip as your boyfriend griffmoney, get out of this thread, you have no basketball knowledges.

    first, this is not a competition of who will have the most 50pts games.
    MJ missed one year and half of his prime, and still manage to get 33 50pts game before he is 32yo.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by necya
    you are as studip as your boyfriend griffmoney, get out of this thread, you have no basketball knowledges.

    first, this is not a competition of who will have the most 50pts games.
    MJ missed one year and half of his prime, and still manage to get 33 50pts game before he is 32yo.
    so Kobe barley played his first couple years and played half a season in a lockout...

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by necya
    you are as studip as your boyfriend griffmoney, get out of this thread, you have no basketball knowledges.

    first, this is not a competition of who will have the most 50pts games.
    MJ missed one year and half of his prime, and still manage to get 33 50pts game before he is 32yo.
    He actually missed another year of his prime with a injury that he suffered in his second season. That's the year he had that 60 point game against the celtics and the following season he averaged 37 ppg. Who knows what he could've put up that season.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    this kid killed the thread...

    i have a question i can't find an answer...

    How Kobe stans don't like MJ ??

    i mean, MJ the original, Kobe the copy, he spent his entire life trying to copy the GOAT. why don't you like "the same type of player" quoting an standart ISH ignorant ?

    oops

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Ok, opponents winning percentange

    .457 for Kobe

    and

    .549 for Jordan

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Why are you using FG% when kobe attempted triple the amount of threes? No shit his floor percentage is worse than jordan's when he's taking longer shots that are worth more. Scale it for points per possesion(eFG), or even more in depth with free throws incorporated(TS) and jordan is only ahead of kobe by 1-2% max.. This is because kobe was a better three point shooter and FT shooter than jordan(he's a better shooter overall than jordan). If you don't put their playstyles into context these stats mean nothing.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    why dont u morons compare brons to this? EVERY1 looks bad next to jordan. none of us kobe fans think kobe is the goat. we're hoping for t5.

    also can we see the 40 pt games or does that not fit your agenda

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
    Lebron James - once
    Chris Paul - once
    Tony Parker - once
    Monta Ellis - once
    Shawn Marion - once:
    This list isn't even complete, you idiot. Ever heard of that guy Nash? You know, that GUARD who shot 50%+ about half a dozen time? And I bet he isn't the only one you either deliberately left off the list to push your agenda or just blatantly copied it somewhere.

    Jordan ist just on another level than Kobe. Deal with it.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    Why are you using FG% when kobe attempted triple the amount of threes? No shit his floor percentage is worse than jordan's when he's taking longer shots that are worth more. Scale it for points per possesion(eFG), or even more in depth with free throws incorporated(TS) and jordan is only ahead of kobe by 1-2% max.. This is because kobe was a better three point shooter and FT shooter than jordan(he's a better shooter overall than jordan). If you don't put their playstyles into context these stats mean nothing.
    It's jordans fault kobes shot selection is crap right? They have the same playing style except Jordan took shots from where he wanted to, not with 10 hands in his face 10 feet behind the three point line.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
    so Kobe barley played his first couple years and played half a season in a lockout...
    He not better then MJ. Even Phil doesn't think so in his recent interview and this is phil sugarcoating it because he coaches KB. Wat will happen with no restriction next year when he retires? Phil said he was a low % guy. I see u crying when gives that interview.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    "Is Kobe as good as MJ?" thread isn't good enough for you dipshits.

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by creepingdeath
    This list isn't even complete, you idiot. Ever heard of that guy Nash? You know, that GUARD who shot 50%+ about half a dozen time? And I bet he isn't the only one you either deliberately left off the list to push your agenda or just blatantly copied it somewhere.

    Jordan ist just on another level than Kobe. Deal with it.
    calm down Turbo.......

    Nash never averaged 20+PPG 50%FG like I said.





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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    wtf man!!?!?!?

    why are we comparing kobe to jordan all the time when jordan always humiliates him in any comparasant anyways???? whats the ****ing point??

    give kobe some chanse.... compare him to clyde drexler or something.... maybe he can win....

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    Default Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    wtf man!!?!?!?

    why are we comparing kobe to jordan all the time when jordan always humiliates him in any comparasant anyways???? whats the ****ing point??

    give kobe some chanse.... compare him to clyde drexler or something.... maybe he can win....
    Lol'd. . Kobe stans have no dignity they keep coming back after getting humiliated.

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