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College star
Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Why does Kobestan's even try? Pick a fight against another SG and perhaps Kobe can become the 2nd best SG ever.
Too bad, the universal basketball GOAT happened to take form as a SG. Poor Kobe.
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NBA lottery pick
Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
alpha wolf and his 2 or 3 followers just continue to make kobe fans look worse and worse.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
ITT: more people taking Alphawolf very, very seriously
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by asdf1990
Lol'd. . Kobe stans have no dignity they keep coming back after getting humiliated.
i dont understand. where has anyone on this website said that kobe is the goat?
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by RazorBaLade
i dont understand. where has anyone on this website said that kobe is the goat?
Lol there is a 80 page thread just scroll down a little bit.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by asdf1990
Lol there is a 80 page thread just scroll down a little bit.
80 pages are like a thousand replies, theres nothing even CLOSE on the first few pages... link me
ill be back in a few hrs..... ive honestly in my year or so on this site seen maybe 2 posts seriously saying that kobe has a chance to be goat.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by RazorBaLade
80 pages are like a thousand replies, theres nothing even CLOSE on the first few pages... link me
ill be back in a few hrs..... ive honestly in my year or so on this site seen maybe 2 posts seriously saying that kobe has a chance to be goat.
Hence I said Kobe "stans" I never said a respectful laker/Kobe fan. I see it 10 time everyday from Kobe "stans" . They make irrational comments.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by necya
Kobe 25 games (9 against teams who made the playoffs)
MJ 39 games (32 against teams who made the playoffs)
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I rule the local playground
Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by RazorBaLade
i dont understand. where has anyone on this website said that kobe is the goat?
Just one person on this site(AlphaWolf), but he says it in some form or fashion about 10 times a day
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I rule the local playground
Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Kobe sacrificed his scoring because of Shaq and it's a pitty because once Shaq was out, Kobe was crazy.
No doubt in my mind Kobe would have much more than 39 50 pt games if he didn't play 8 years with Shaq. Too bad. Would've been cool to see some more 70 pt, 80 pt games....he was capable of doing it as well. He can be streaky and inconsistent with shooting when he catches fire...there's pretty much nothing he can't score. I'm positive Kobe would'e had like 3 80 pt games if he didn't spend his physical prime playing with Shaq.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
I hope people realize that 50 is just an arbitrary number, just like all other basketball stat phenonem such as the triple double. What if someone got 30/15/8? would it be less impressive than a 10/10/10 game? Is 49 that much less than 50? What if kobe had more 49+ games and Jordan had more 50+ games?
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by AlphaWolf24
Yes...and MJ also played most of his career in a completly differnt era when talking about defense and FG%...
This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).
Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once
And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).
Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once
So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.
In the last 11 years, it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players.
here are the league averages for all the years MJ shot over 50%.
88' - 48%
89' - 47.7%
90' - 47.6%
91' - 47.4%
92' - 47.2%
And here are the league averages in the post-MJ era.
00' - 44.9%
01' - 44.3%
02' - 44.5%
03' - 44.2%
04' - 43.9%
05' - 44.7%
06' - 45.4%
07' - 45.8%
08' - 45.7%
09' - 45.9%
10' - 46.1%
so looking at this MJ's and Kobe's FG% is marginal at best.
also......TS% difference in both players is 1.7%
I'd never paid attention to this poster before (not intentionally), but he does have a point here. Still, MJ > Kobe, though.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by pegasus
I'd never paid attention to this poster before (not intentionally), but he does have a point here. Still, MJ > Kobe, though.
The only thing is that I wouldn't trust that poster cause he lies by misleading. For example, I randomly picked Reggie Miller, he only shot 50% a couple of times in his career, so because of that he goes under the criteria he made up. He lies by misleading, the same way Griffmoney now tries to crow bar in that he's been watching the NBA since his 11, ever since I started calling him out that he said that he's 26 and has been watching since he was 20.
There were 84 50 point games from the 2000s, here's a link, can you name them.
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Zander/...50_point_games
Edit: I read wrong, I thought it was players who scored over 50 points. But none the lest, I wouldn't trust him.
Last edited by jstern; 03-23-2011 at 02:15 PM.
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NBA All-star
Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
Originally Posted by ProfessorMurder
This is the most important stats, cause it's more relative. Along with the opponent season record.
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Re: 50pts games between MJ and Kobe
jordan doesnt have a case if you want to compare scoring ability, call me when jordan comes close 81 points or 62 in three quarters
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