Phil Jackson on Scottie Pippen's as a leader

[Calabis]

jordan was like vegeta-raw talent, skill, ruthlessness
pippen was goku-innate leadership, no weaknesses

phil had more trust in pippen because he was the steady player of the two. while jordan scored a lot of points and made his defender pay, scottie took the bulls offense by the horns and made opposing TEAM DEFENSES (and offenses) pay.

Roundball is the Jordan of the anti-jordan crowd

Mehya24 is that sidekick of the anti-jordan crowd ala Pippen



The robin in these anti-jordan posts

http://www.nba.com/jordan/is_philonmj.html

[juju151111]

very impressive, but that doesn't negate pippen's playmaking duties (the bulls also won more titles when pippen was THE assist guy-92,96,97,98).

When Mj hmgot old Pippen took over most the other years.

[mehyaM24]

This thread epitomizes the problem with Jordan mythologists. The mythology has reached such a ridiculous level that MJ stans can't handle any other player on Chicago getting credit. Pippen ran the offense, ran the defense and served a valuable leadership role with his teammates on and off the court--and we are supposed to pretend it didn't happen. Pippen did the same things when he went to Portland.


MJ had an insane usage rate in the playoffs--easily the highest in history. Of course he would get assists when he had the ball so much. It was Pippen who set up the offense, though, from 1991-1998. In Portland he shared those duties with Stoudemire at times; when it shifted fully to Pippen Portland did much better...

pretty much. jordan probably had more flash to his passing, but pippen was always fundamental about it with the occasional pizzazz.

here are some great videos highlighting pip's playmaking:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIC8Xzk2cE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOUthIPdwiI

[Roundball_Rock]

The thread is about Pippen and the Jordan revolutionary guard are here with their batons. If you couldn't criticise Jordan before, now know that you can't even praise one of his teammates.

Honestly, these posters are sick in the head - they're not trolling, this is how they think. It's like they've tied their own personal self-esteem to the Jordan brand and take it as a personal insult if anything in any way, shape or form detracts from it - even if that is just their own loony projection and not really intended.

Exactly. Which is why MJ being the clear GOAT and the mythology is so important to them. If MJ loses that status, their world collapses. Hence their non-stop attacks on LeBron. Hopefully LeBron can get it done and we wouldn't have to deal with so many MJ stans in 5 years. These are the same people who got when they read that MJ's dick was smaller than Pippen's and proceeding to argue MJ was still huge even if smaller than Pippen.

It is interesting MJ fans are not disputing the substance in the OP. Those are straight from Phil Jackson himself. MJ stans are not even discussing the subject at hand.
Instead of giving credit to Pippen for how his leadership helped the team win they are bringing up 1.8 seconds and throwing various other tantrums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIC8Xzk2cE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOUthIPdwiI

[juju151111]

The thread is about Pippen and the Jordan revolutionary guard are here with their batons. If you couldn't criticise Jordan before, now know that you can't even praise one of his teammates.

Honestly, these posters are sick in the head - they're not trolling, this is how they think. It's like they've tied their own personal self-esteem to the Jordan brand and take it as a personal insult if anything in any way, shape or form detracts from it - even if that is just their own loony projection and not really intended.

You Jordan haters come in every thread mentioning Pippen like any one gives a ****?

[Roundball_Rock]

The thread says "as A leader" not "as THE leader." The obvious implication is other people also were leaders (Jordan, Cartwright). So why the fury?

[mehyaM24]

You Jordan haters come in every thread mentioning Pippen like any one gives a ****?

this thread is about pippen's leadership via phil jackson, yet jordan fans are making it about....jordan.

you people need to get over the fact that jordan, while great, was 1-9 without the real leaders of the bulls, scottie and pjax(as a headcoach).

jordan played his role. was a great scorer and 1 on 1 player. one of the best in that regard. however, pippen's all-around expertise is truly one of a kind. you dont often find a guy who's not only the best playmaker on the floor, but the best defender too. pippen's intangibles are what TEAM basketball is all about. what WINNING is all about.

[Calabis]

The thread is about Pippen and the Jordan revolutionary guard are here with their batons. If you couldn't criticise Jordan before, now know that you can't even praise one of his teammates.

Honestly, these posters are sick in the head - they're not trolling, this is how they think. It's like they've tied their own personal self-esteem to the Jordan brand and take it as a personal insult if anything in any way, shape or form detracts from it - even if that is just their own loony projection and not really intended.

Sad, sad, sad

If u did ur homework...maybe u would notice this troll making numerous anti jordan bait threads...his new act is spreading Pippen as the leader of the Bulls now. He has been in numerous posts just the last two days with this act....this was a discussion in yesterday's Pippen lead the Bulls past round 1 thread....I guess he wasn't satisfied with it being a part of that thread and decided today I will start a independent thread about Scottie leadership.

Similar to DJ with ur hero....let me guess DJ was the real leader not Bird.

[juju151111]

this thread is about pippen's leadership via phil jackson, yet jordan fans are making it about....jordan.

you people need to get over the fact that jordan, while great, was 1-9 without the real leaders of the bulls, scottie and pjax(as a headcoach).

jordan played his role. was a great scorer and 1 on 1 player. one of the best in that regard. however, pippen's all-around expertise is truly one of a kind. you dont often find a guy who's not only the best playmaker on the floor, but the best defender too. pippen's intangibles are what TEAM basketball is all about. what WINNING is all about.

Mj was the best player on the Bulls. The **** you spurting?

[mehyaM24]

Mj was the best player on the Bulls. The **** you spurting?

jordan was the best scorer on the team. no doubt.

[Roundball_Rock]

this thread is about pippen's leadership via phil jackson, yet jordan fans are making it about....jordan.

We are on page 3 and all MJ stans have offered is anger and attacks on Pippen. Not one Mike fan has made an intelligent comment on Pippen's leadership role in Chicago (he did the same things in Portland btw).

These people go around repeatedly saying Pippen was not a leader--juju said it just yesterday. So someone decides to do some homework on the issues, comes back with evidence and these clowns are outraged by it. This goes to LeBird's point. This is almost like a religion to them.

[Calabis]

Exactly. Which is why MJ being the clear GOAT and the mythology is so important to them. If MJ loses that status, their world collapses. Hence their non-stop attacks on LeBron. Hopefully LeBron can get it done and we wouldn't have to deal with so many MJ stans in 5 years. These are the same people who got when they read that MJ's dick was smaller than Pippen's and proceeding to argue MJ was still huge even if smaller than Pippen.

It is interesting MJ fans are not disputing the substance in the OP. Those are straight from Phil Jackson himself. MJ stans are not even discussing the subject at hand.
Instead of giving credit to Pippen for how his leadership helped the team win they are bringing up 1.8 seconds and throwing various other tantrums.

Lebron ain't getting shit done bro...that ship has sailed. Thanks for finally getting back to your real hero...the whole Pippen act is really sad

[Roundball_Rock]

Notice that no MJ stan disputes what Jackson said...

Lebron ain't getting shit done bro...that ship has sailed. Thanks for finally getting back to your real hero...the whole Pippen act is really sad

Really? Is that why I was critical of LeBron--rooted against him--in 2011, and 2012? Go back and read threads from that period. I was accused by MJ stans of being a closet Kobe stan; now it is a LeBron stan?

It is comical how MJ stans fail to grasp that a player like Pippen had/has a large fan base. All they understand is selling sneakers and ESPN hype.

[LeBird]

Sad, sad, sad

If u did ur homework...maybe u would notice this troll making numerous anti jordan bait threads...his new act is spreading Pippen as the leader of the Bulls now. He has been in numerous posts just the last two days with this act....this was a discussion in yesterday's Pippen lead the Bulls past round 1 thread....I guess he wasn't satisfied with it being a part of that thread and decided today I will start a independent thread about Scottie leadership.

Similar to DJ with ur hero....let me guess DJ was the real leader not Bird.

The irony is I've done my homework and the posters on your side of the fence are the ones with the agenda. R_R can't 'make' Pippen anything. All he's done is post quotes from notable people around that time. If you have a problem, go tell Phil Jackson.

can you imagine it though? Some Internet poster harassing Phil Jackson to not make statements about Pippen being the leader because they know it was Jordan. When will you nutters ever grow up?

[mehyaM24]

can you imagine it though? Some Internet poster harassing Phil Jackson to not make statements about Pippen being the leader because they know it was Jordan. When will you nutters ever grow up?

bwahahaha. phil would probably have his bodyguards choke these clowns out