The Jordan Fadeaway.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Do you know how much more athletic the players that guard Kobe are or how much more athletic players are in general today?

40 year old Jordan was raining fadeaways on prime Marion, RJeff, Kenyon Martin, and Kobe. Grab a clue.

[PullupJay]

Tracy Mcgrady had a better fade away than jordan and kobe nuff said

[STATUTORY]

40 year old Jordan was raining fadeaways on prime Marion, RJeff, Kenyon Martin, and Kobe. Grab a clue.

40 year old MJ scored 20ppg on 19 shots. He wasn't raining no nobody

[Fatal9]

40 year old Jordan was raining fadeaways on prime Marion, RJeff, Kenyon Martin, and Kobe. Grab a clue.

He was also one of the least efficient scorers in the league (47 TS%...what a damn joke). Impressive still what he did for his age, but lets be real for a moment here.

[OldSchoolBBall]

He was also one of the least efficient scorers in the league (47 TS%...what a damn joke). Impressive still what he did for his age, but lets be real for a moment here.

25+ ppg on 43% FG (league average was 43.5% FG) at age 39 until he hurt his knee and sat out a month in 2002. 23+ ppg on 46+% FG in the final 30 games of the 2003 season after turning age 40 (league average was ~43% FG). I look at these two periods because they were the only times he wasn't injured; his play improved over the course of the 2003 season as he worked himself back into game shape.

His Tee-Ehs percentage was as low as it was because he wasn't getting to the line - you can bet that if 39/40 year old MJ played in the post-2005 NBA, he'd be getting more FT's like everyone else and his Tee-Ehs percentage would be in the 51-52% range. Still not great, but not abysmal either.

Regardless, he was indeed raining fadeaways on very athletic players at that age. FACT. The athleticism of defenders never had an effect on Jordan at any age. HIS OWN declining athleticism had an effect, but not the athleticism of any particular defender.

[Knoe Itawl]

He was also one of the least efficient scorers in the league (47 TS%...what a damn joke). Impressive still what he did for his age, but lets be real for a moment here.

At 40 on a bum knee, several seasons removed from NBA level competition he shouldn't have been able to do anywhere near that in such a "super league"

What a joke.

[Fatal9]

25+ ppg on 43% FG (league average was 43.5% FG) at age 39 until he hurt his knee and sat out a month in 2002. 23+ ppg on 46+% FG in the final 30 games of the 2003 season after turning age 40 (league average was ~43% FG). I look at these two periods because they were the only times he wasn't injured; his play improved over the course of the 2003 season as he worked himself back into game shape.

His Tee-Ehs percentage was as low as it was because he wasn't getting to the line - you can bet that if 39/40 year old MJ played in the post-2005 NBA, he'd be getting more FT's like everyone else and his Tee-Ehs percentage would be in the 51.5-53% range. Still not stellar, but not abysmal either.

43 FG% is terrible for a player who takes almost exclusively twos. 47-49 TS% is a joke no matter how you slice it. Right there among the least efficient 20+ ppg seasons of all time (since the 60s). Only Antoine Walker has had a less efficient scoring season in the last 35 years (minimum 41 games played).

He was raining them fadeaways though.

[Fatal9]

At 40 on a bum knee, several seasons removed from NBA level competition he shouldn't have been able to do anywhere near that in such a "super league"

What a joke.

Like I said impressive no doubt what he accomplished for his age (even if his mileage was more of a player around 37ish). But can't stand fanboys acting like he was some worldbeater out there.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Keep trolling, Fatal9. Jordan at age 35 was better than Kobe has been the last two seasons, at age 31/32, and possibly even better than Kobe was in 2009 at age 30. Deal with it.

[macpierce]

in your opinion of course!
the turn around fadeaway requires strength and great jumping ability, something kobe lacks today, michael is stronger body wise and more athletic at the age of 32

[macpierce]

wait a minute
this thread is called the jordan fadeaway but the usual suspects come in here to take a hot steamy shit on kobe, at least troll under stealth mode guys, youre making this way too easy.

[STATUTORY]

wait a minute
this thread is called the jordan fadeaway but the usual suspects come in here to take a hot steamy shit on kobe, at least troll under stealth mode guys, youre making this way too easy.

real talk the only thing keeping the memory of Jordan alive is hate for Kobe. If Kobe never played, no one would talk about MJ.

[Nevaeh]

real talk the only thing keeping the memory of Jordan alive is hate for Kobe. If Kobe never played, no one would talk about MJ.

No one would have to because there wouldn't be any Idiots around calling Kobe the Greatest of All Time.

[Hulk Hogan]

1st you knowingly post some fake clutch stats, and now you try to mislead. Did you watch the game? Did Kobe not try to do fadeaways like every single time Harden defended him?

Thabo Sefolosha, SG 2 blocks
James Harden, G 0 blocks

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310227025

It was sef disrupting his fadeaways no harden.

[Heilige]

Keep trolling, Fatal9. Jordan at age 35 was better than Kobe has been the last two seasons, at age 31/32, and possibly even better than Kobe was in 2009 at age 30. Deal with it.

Do you feel Jordan was way better at age 35 than Kobe at ages 30-32?


Here are Jordan's playoff averages from 1996-98 when the Bulls won three championships:

1996: 30.7 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.1 apg, .459 FG%, .403 3FG%, .818 FT%
1997: 31.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.8 apg, .456 FG%, .194 3FG%, .831 FT%
1998: 32.4 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 apg, .462 FG%, .302 3FG%, .812 FT%

Here are Bryant's playoff averages from 2008-10 when the Lakers made three straight trips to the Finals and won two championships:

2008: 30.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, .479 FG%, .302 3FG%, .809 FT%
2009: 30.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.5 apg, .457 FG%, .349 3FG%, .883 FT%
2010: 29.2 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg, .458 FG%, .374 3FG%, .842 FT%