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National High School Star
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Agree 100 percent. Parker is an MVP candidate but not the better player. CP3 defends better, passes better, rebounds better and has a larger impact on the game normally. Also has the edge in intangibles like leadership and clutch. Also like you noted when he's aggressive CP3 can score easily.
parker is just as clutch as cp3.. probably more so because cp3 has a knack for turnovers and bad decisions in the last 30 seconds.
as for who the better player is.. well cp3 is obviously more TALENTED, but this year, tony parker has been the best PG in the game. period.
2012-2013 season TP9 > CP3 by a good amount
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King Heno
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by unbreakable
as for who the better player is.. well cp3 is obviously more TALENTED, but this year, tony parker has been the best PG in the game. period.
2012-2013 season TP9 > CP3 by a good amount
Really now?
Chris Paul is tied #2 in the NBA in assists per game with 9.4. Parker is 6th with 7.7.
Chris Paul is #1 in steals per game. Parker is tied #71.
Chris Paul is #1 in assists per turnover with 4.38. Parker is #7 with 3.05.
Paul is #7 in steals per turnover (#2 among points, only behind Kidd who is playing more of a SG role). Parker isn't top 64 (and that's all nba.com tracks)
Parker is scoring 4.4 more points a night but taking 3.4 more shots per game. Granted, it is at a higher FG%.
If that is a good amount, then I must say, the guy that compared losing to the Pacers and losing to the Spurs was right as well.
Last edited by qrich; 02-22-2013 at 05:34 AM.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by unbreakable
parker is just as clutch as cp3.. probably more so because cp3 has a knack for turnovers and bad decisions in the last 30 seconds.
as for who the better player is.. well cp3 is obviously more TALENTED, but this year, tony parker has been the best PG in the game. period.
2012-2013 season TP9 > CP3 by a good amount
Funny thing is people just started claiming this in the last two weeks. Prior to that CP3 was everybodies best PG. Proves how knee jerk this is. Parker has never at any point in his career been a more clutch player than CP3 sorry. How do you regularly rank top 5 in assist to turnover rate and have a turnover issue? Makes no sense. Parker is scoring better this year. Is scoring more valuable than defense, passing and rebounding for a PG?
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
3.5 more shots per game is significant.
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Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Ewww, no. How quickly they forget CP3 butchering him in the 2008 playoffs. One game doesn't mean he's better than recovering from injury CP3.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Money 23
Ewww, no. How quickly they forget CP3 butchering him in the 2008 playoffs. One game doesn't mean he's better than recovering from injury CP3.
Or more recently when the Clippers held him to 4 and 11 points on about 30 percent shooting in the two previous meetings.
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Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Or more recently when the Clippers held him to 4 and 11 points on about 30 percent shooting in the two previous meetings.
ISH is a what did you do for me lately message board. It's quite obvious CP3 is the better player, and always has been. Parker has never even sniffed top five, or MVP caliber talks in his life.
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#Dre Day in Sac Town
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
This year Tony Parker has been better than CP3, CP3 is easily a more talented played but Parker imo is harder to stop for opposing defenses and that in a 7 game series is vital.
Tony Parker imo in terms of impact on a game is as good as CP3 while CP3 does "more" things better the things Parker does imo hes more effective in. I would also say Parker is a better athlete than Paul imo hes stronger on drives and a bit more explosive.
A lot of Centres in the NBA do a lot more things than Dwight (during his good years in Orlando) but what Dwight does he was ultra effective in he was still considered the best even tho he was nowhere near talented/skilled as others bigs.
Both are great, Cp3 for mine is greater but Parker is a monster and easily a top 3 PG and been better this season.
Last edited by andremiller07; 02-22-2013 at 05:44 AM.
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Good college starter
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Paul got absolutely scorched man.
Last edited by Rubio2Gasol; 02-22-2013 at 05:43 AM.
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Money 23
ISH is a what did you do for me lately message board. It's quite obvious CP3 is the better player, and always has been. Parker has never even sniffed top five, or MVP caliber talks in his life.
Yup. Funny how a player in a few weeks can leapfrog everybody. Like last year Rondo was shit in the regular season and nobody noticed him... Then he kills it in the playoffs and is suddenly "easily the best PG". 10 bucks says when TP cools down here shortly these same people will say "CP3's easily been the best PG this year".
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Clipper Nation Soldier
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by andremiller07
This year Tony Parker has been better than CP3, CP3 is easily a more talented played but Parker imo is harder to stop for opposing defenses and that in a 7 game series is vital.
Tony Parker imo in terms of impact on a game is as good as CP3 while CP3 does "more" things better the things Parker does imo hes more effective in.
A lot of Centres in the NBA do a lot more things than Dwight (during his good years in Orlando) but what Dwight does he was ultra effective in he was still considered the best even tho he was nowhere near talented/skilled as others bigs. I would also say Parker is a better athlete than Paul imo hes stronger on drives and a bit more explosive.
Both are great, Cp3 for mine is greater but Parker is a monster and easily a top 3 PG.
Yet none of you can give any evidence at all for this. Parker scores 4 extra ppg on 3.5 extra shots, means nothing other than he's a more aggressive scorer. CP3 is better at everything else.
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Moderator
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Did somebody just use the words.."skip is right"
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King Heno
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by andremiller07
This year Tony Parker has been better than CP3, CP3 is easily a more talented played but Parker imo is harder to stop for opposing defenses and that in a 7 game series is vital.
Tony Parker imo in terms of impact on a game is as good as CP3 while CP3 does "more" things better the things Parker does imo hes more effective in. I would also say Parker is a better athlete than Paul imo hes stronger on drives and a bit more explosive.
A lot of Centres in the NBA do a lot more things than Dwight (during his good years in Orlando) but what Dwight does he was ultra effective in he was still considered the best even tho he was nowhere near talented/skilled as others bigs.
Both are great, Cp3 for mine is greater but Parker is a monster and easily a top 3 PG and been better this season.
How?
By scoring more despite taking more shots (granted, a higher fg & 3pt% as well)?
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Proves idiots wrong
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Clippersfan86
Question. When Parker scored 4 points and 11 points vs CP3 in the previous two meetings on 30 percent shooting.. what did that mean? Now one game or even a month of games means A>B?
at this blatant homerism. It is not like we are saying Jeremy Lin is better than Chris Paul. Parker has scoring, overall shooting percentage, turnovers on Chris Paul this year as a top dog of a team with the best record. Paul is a great player but Parker has been even greater.
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King Heno
Re: Tony Parker > CP3
Originally Posted by Human Error
at this blatant homerism. It is not like we are saying Jeremy Lin is better than Chris Paul. Parker has scoring, overall shooting percentage, turnovers on Chris Paul this year as a top dog of a team with the best record. Paul is a great player but Parker has been even greater.
Scores 4.8 more points a night while taking 3.5 more shots. He does shoot better from the field (though TS brings the numbers much closer).
And turnovers? Parker averages 2.5 turnovers to 2.2 for Paul.
Not to mention Paul is #1 in assists per turnover to #7. While being #2 in assists per game to Parkers #6. Paul also averages a higher PER by 1.2. Paul contributes to 8 more points per 100 possessions and helps allows 4 less by the opponent.
Where is this factual stuff that Parker is "not even close" and "much greater", and so on.
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