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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    His best case is 2010 imo..

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meticode
    Top 3.
    End thread. He was the 3rd best player in 2010.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Individually basketball ability wise Wade was definitely the best player in 2008-2009. If you include team success and playoff domination you can argue 2005-2006. In 09-10 and 10-11he was top 3. Pre injury 2006-2007 many thought he was the best.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
    maybe statistically once in 2009 or maybe finals wise in 2006


    but overall ? na... best player in the league doesnt switch from a month to month basis. i think of it more as a title or a torch


    1990-1993 = jordan
    1994-1995 = hakeem
    1996-1998 = jordan
    1999-2002 = shaq
    2003-2005 = duncan
    2006-2010 = kobe
    2011-2014 = lebron
    How was KOBE the best in 07 and 08?

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    imo, wade's injuries, inconsistent and lazy play hurt his legacy a TON

    - 2006, worse stats than both kobe and lebron; teammate says kobe was better
    -injured in 2007
    -injured in 2008
    -2009,behind kobe and lebron in mvp voting/bowed out in the playoffs
    -2010,behind kobe and lebron in mvp voting/knocked out of the first round
    -2011,behind lebron in mvp voting; worse stats across the board
    -same as 2012
    -same as 2013
    -same as 2014

    now that i think about it, pretty clear wade was never the best in the league

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    No but he was CERTAINLY in the top 3-5 at certain points. I would go so far to say that peak wise, Wade is the best player EVER 6'4 and under. I would take Wade over West, AI, Isiah, Thompson, Paul, Cousy, Frazier, Payton, Pearl, or Tiny! Gotta remember the SG's like MJ and Kobe are 6'6 and could move up front and play SF in addition to SG and PG. So even though AI was FOR SURE undersized at SG, Wade was also somewhat undersized too. All the other SG's in that early 2000s Golden Era were anywhere from 6'5 to nearly 6'9.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    imo, wade's injuries, inconsistent and lazy play hurt his legacy a TON

    - 2006, worse stats than both kobe and lebron; teammate says kobe was better
    -injured in 2007
    -injured in 2008
    -2009,behind kobe and lebron in mvp voting/bowed out in the playoffs
    -2010,behind kobe and lebron in mvp voting/knocked out of the first round
    -2011,behind lebron in mvp voting; worse stats across the board
    -same as 2012
    -same as 2013
    -same as 2014

    now that i think about it, pretty clear wade was never the best in the league
    You failedl to mention Wade's '06 playoffs where he was CLEARLY the best player, yet you mention his '09 and '10 first round exits as a slight against him. Inconsistent much? Also, you must think Nash was the best player in the league in '05 and '06 right? Rose in '11? You cited MVP voting so I can only assume that is your conclusion. Also, please show me where Mourning said Kobe was better than Wade after the finals. Even if he did, it's a pretty weak argument. Shaq called Wade the best. See, I can play that game too.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by bizil
    No but he was CERTAINLY in the top 3-5 at certain points. I would go so far to say that peak wise, Wade is the best player EVER 6'4 and under. I would take Wade over West, AI, Isiah, Thompson, Paul, Cousy, Frazier, Payton, Pearl, or Tiny! Gotta remember the SG's like MJ and Kobe are 6'6 and could move up front and play SF in addition to SG and PG. So even though AI was FOR SURE undersized at SG, Wade was also somewhat undersized too. All the other SG's in that early 2000s Golden Era were anywhere from 6'5 to nearly 6'9.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeApe
    You failedl to mention Wade's '06 playoffs where he was CLEARLY the best player, yet you mention his '09 and '10 first round exits as a slight against him. Inconsistent much? Also, you must think Nash was the best player in the league in '05 and '06 right? Rose in '11? You cited MVP voting so I can only assume that is your conclusion. Also, please show me where Mourning said Kobe was better than Wade after the finals. Even if he did, it's a pretty weak argument. Shaq called Wade the best. See, I can play that game too.
    Lol, no point in arguing with him, he clearly has an agenda

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meticode
    I remember this about a week ago that someone said Wade was never a top 3 player ever at any point of his career. I think it was DukeDelonte.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by Real14
    I love AI to death! But give me peak Wade over peak AI! The size, skill, and freak athletic ability Wade gives him the edge over AI. But in terms of peak value for players 6'4 and under, I think Wade, West, AI, and Isiah are the top 4.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrapeApe
    You failedl to mention Wade's '06 playoffs where he was CLEARLY the best player, yet you mention his '09 and '10 first round exits as a slight against him. Inconsistent much? Also, you must think Nash was the best player in the league in '05 and '06 right? Rose in '11? You cited MVP voting so I can only assume that is your conclusion. Also, please show me where Mourning said Kobe was better than Wade after the finals. Even if he did, it's a pretty weak argument. Shaq called Wade the best. See, I can play that game too.
    i mentioned his 2006 run. thing is, kobe and lebron were both statistically better and were higher in mvp voting for AT LEAST 3/4 of the year.

    in 09 and 10, not only was he behind lebron and kobe in mvp voting, but had worse stats (including playoffs) and team play.

    post 2006 finals, mourning on kobe: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4331

    his word > shaq's (my favorite player), because in all honesty, he is 100% without bias.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Sadly no, but he's definitely been in the top 3 and top 5 a lot. He just played in LeBron and Kobe's eras.

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by bizil
    I love AI to death! But give me peak Wade over peak AI! The size, skill, and freak athletic ability Wade gives him the edge over AI. But in terms of peak value for players 6'4 and under, I think Wade, West, AI, and Isiah are the top 4.
    Let me ask you this... Have Wade ever led a team like 2001 sixers to the finals?

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    Default Re: was dwyane wade EVER the best player in the league?

    Quote Originally Posted by mehyaM24
    i mentioned his 2006 run. thing is, kobe and lebron were both statistically better and were higher in mvp voting for AT LEAST 3/4 of the year.

    in 09 and 10, not only was he behind lebron and kobe in mvp voting, but had worse stats (including playoffs) and team play.

    post 2006 finals, mourning on kobe: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4331

    his word > shaq's (my favorite player), because in all honesty, he is 100% without bias.
    Props for posting the link. I'm a bit suprised by Zo's comments but I don't know the context or tone of the interview. Remember, Wade was only in his 3rd year and Kobe was an established veteran superstar so perhaps it was out of respect. Regardless, Wade has a strong case as the best player that year when factoring in his post season performance. As I mentioned before, he was certainly in the discussion for multiple seasons.

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