Player of the Decade?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Oh, and it seemed like Kobe kicked ass on the Spurs every time they played.
Even when they had a "Kobe stopper".
Kobe owns the Spurs. If Duncan was the better player, he should not allow his team to get "owned" by anyone.

[ginobli2311]

Duncan stopped be the better player when? '04, '05?

LOL

in 05 the spurs won the title. duncan's numbers for playoffs:

24 points 12 boards 3 assists

in 06:

26 points 11 boards 3 assists with a PER of 30.4

in 07:

22 points 12 boards 3 assists with a PER of 27.4

LOL. duncan was still the best player in the league all the way up to 07. look at his numbers. now remember that he is one of the 10 best defenders of ALL TIME.

my god you people give duncan no respect at all. its just such a joke.

[StacksOnDeck]

Obviously Kobe. What kind of thread is this? It's not even a debate.

[ginobli2311]

So we're to totally forget the lost seasons in the middle of the decade when LA either didn't make it to the playoffs or would have gotten killed by SAS (2005 to the Gasol trade)? Head to head should not count when for a few years one team doesn't even get far enough to play another. One is kidding oneself if one thinks that Kobe is the real reason why LAL 3-peated. Shaq was unstoppable in those years and the real reason for the 3-peat. Put T-Mac or any other premier perimeter player on the LAL and the same result would have happened.

From 00-09,

1. Duncan

2 MVPs
3 rings as the best player
Spurs are contenders every year


2. Shaq

1 MVP
3 rings as the best player
1 ring as second banana


3. Kobe

1 MVP
1 ring as the best player
3 rings as second banana
LAL - nowhere near contenders for 05, 06, 07

this. i just hate kobe stans. i can't take them anymore. trying to now look at head to head comparisons. its laughable. how about looking at the entire body of work....not just one detail. ****ing morons. god damn you people are the worst.

[Carbine]

Duncan:

2X MVP
3 titles as the inarguable best player on the team
2 Finals MVP's
7 All NBA First team
3 All NBA Second team
7 All NBA First Team Defense
3 All NBA Second Team Defense
68% winning percentage over decade as best player on team


Kobe:

1 MVP
1 championship as inarguable best player
3 championships as second banana
1 Finals MVP
7 All NBA Defense
2 All NBA Defense
7 All NBA First Team
2 All NBA Second Team
1 All NBA Third Team
70% Winning percentage as second banana.
59% Winning percentage as main man.


When you factor in Kobe didn't have a greater prime than Duncan.... everything points to Duncan being slightly more accomplished than Kobe during the 00's.

[jlauber]

I forgot...Kobe's Lakers actually went 4-1 against Duncan's Spurs in the 00's post-seasons. They also went 14-6 in their H2H games.

Anyone want to post their individual stats?

[ginobli2311]

Duncan:

2X MVP
3 titles as the inarguable best player on the team
2 Finals MVP's
7 All NBA First team
3 All NBA Second team
7 All NBA First Team Defense
3 All NBA Second Team Defense
68% winning percentage over decade as best player on team


Kobe:

1 MVP
1 championship as inarguable best player
3 championships as second banana
1 Finals MVP
7 All NBA Defense
2 All NBA Defense
7 All NBA First Team
2 All NBA Second Team
1 All NBA Third Team
70% Winning percentage as second banana.
59% Winning percentage as main man.


When you factor in Kobe didn't have a greater prime than Duncan.... everything points to Duncan being slightly more accomplished than Kobe during the 00's.

great post. now lets play the kobe (luckiest player in the league game). kobe came in to the league and got to play with one of the 8 best players of all time at his peak in shaq for 8 years. kobe was simply not good enough or mature enough to lead a team to a title for his first 10 years in the league. yet he won 3 titles because of circumstances.

so to even things out. lets give tim duncan the same chance. duncan started to decline a bit after the 07 season. but he would still be the best 2nd option in the league. so lets put lebron james (the best player in the league over the last 3 years) on the spurs with duncan. so duncan would have at least another 2 titles over the last three years if he played with similar talent that kobe got to play with when kobe was the 2nd option. LOL.

****ing kobe stan morons. GTFO.

[ginobli2311]

I forgot...Kobe's Lakers actually went 4-1 against Duncan's Spurs in the 00's post-seasons. They also went 14-6 in their H2H games.

Anyone want to post their individual stats?

so you are really resorting to head to head games to determine the better player over an entire decade? really.....you are that pathetic an idiotic. wow.

you have been owned. as always. please stop posting your non sense. its easily duncan. ****ing kobe stan moron ****.

stop rewriting history on here. and top under rating duncan and shaq. they are both far greater players than kobe. deal with it. remember when paul pierce was the best player in the 08 finals? imagine if shaq had let the likes of rik smits win finals mvp over him? LOL......its absurd to even think about it.

kobe is a great player. but he's just not in the class of duncan or shaq. sorry. no matter how much you want him to be. he never will be.

[Disaprine]

player of the decade from 2000-2010?
shaq is easily still the best.

Shaq during the early and mid 2000s dominated the league and won in a way no one has seen since Michael Jordan. he might have fallen around the 2006 or 2007 but its still more than enough for him to be the best in the decade. Kobe and Tim are tied for number 2.

[StacksOnDeck]

So pretty much Duncan and Kobe have had similar team success yet Kobe's personal success > Duncan's. Get mad.

[ginobli2311]

So pretty much Duncan and Kobe have had similar team success yet Kobe's personal success > Duncan's. Get mad.

not at all. duncan won 50 plus games every year of the decade. duncan was the best player on his team every year of the decade. duncan has more mvps. better numbers. better defensive numbers. higher mvp awards shares. more finals mvps. more titles as the man. no off the court problems that impacted play on the court. duncan was the better teammate.

seriously? what are you people smoking?

[rmt]

player of the decade from 2000-2010?

Decades last for 10 years - usually referred to as the 80s, 90s, etc.
1980-1989
1990-1999
2000-2009
2010-2019

So Kobe's 2010 ring doesn't count for this decade - just as Duncan's 1999 ring doesn't count for this decade.

[griffmoney2084]

guys this is a pointless thread



KOBE

WON

PLAYER

OF

THE

DECADE


-----> sporting news player of the decade - Kobe Bryant <-----





/thread

[griffmoney2084]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/arti...yant-sg-lakers

[Bigsmoke]

Even discounting 09-10, so Kobe with four season over 30 ppg, six Finals, FOUR rings, one MVP, one Finals MVP, one scoring title, and some statistical MONSTER games...

and Duncan was CLEARLY the best player in the decade?

And of course, if you INCLUDE 09-10, then what?

I still think Tim Duncan at his best was better than Kobe at his.