Will 2012 finally break the 14 year drought of 2 all star teammates for Kobe?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Ridiculously Better Production.
Team's 0ffensive and Defensive anchor.
100000x more impactful defensively.
Main focus of opposing defensives attracting more defenders then any player in the history of the game which directly opened the floor up for everyone else and made it very difficult for teams to double Kobe or any of the roleplayers.
Best Closer on the team.

Yea.. he was better in every possible facet.
I know Kobe Stans like you hate Stats because it shows how overrated he is.

Do you believe Chris Paul had the best playoff performance overall last year over Dirk, Wade and LeBron?

[AlphaWolf24]

I said during the 3Peat as*hoe.

Bolded is Bryants best year and the year by far where they were closest in terms of Production/Impact.

Shaq missed a ton of games in 03/04 and still was right behind Kobe in MVP voting and obviously would have either won MVP or been 2nd/3rd if he played more games.

Kobe was never even remotely close to Shaq in Production/Value or Impact from 97-04.

Quit Stanning.

2000 Kobe all NBA First team defense...Shaq never made all nba first team

2001 Kobe the best player in the real NBA Finals vs the Spurs...
"Kobe called the best player in the league" by the #1 sports media outlet in the world.....puts up a better Playoff run then Wade in 06'

2002 for the 2nd year in a row widely regarded as the best player in the world...wins 3 straight Titles as the premiere player in the NBA and the best allaround player on the Lakers

2003 puts up one of the greatest scoring seasons of alltime....drops 40 points a game for nearly a month straight...again the best player in the NBA

[32Dayz]

Playoff PER

A's (Main Star) :
Shaq (00-02) : 29
Jordan (91-93 + 96-98) : 28.53

B's (Side-Kicks) :
Kobe (00-02) : 21
Pippen (91-93 + 96-98) : 19.5

The difference is clear and obvious.

Comparison Between Kobe/Gasol in 2010.

Regular Season PER / WShares
Gasol : 22.9 ||| 11
Kobe : 21.9 ||| 9.4

Playoff PER / WShares
Gasol : 24 ||| 4.7
Kobe : 24.7 ||| 3.6

2010 Playoff Summary.
Gasol better in 12/23 Games.
Kobe better in 10/23 Games.

Gasol >= Kobe in 2010

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MVP Shares / Votes / Points from 01-05.
TMac : 925
Kobe : 817

01 - 05
TMac > Kobe

Players from this Generation :

Jordan > Shaq >>> Duncan > Hakeem >>>>> KG/Kobe

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#1.
Jordan : Post Season - PER
Peak : 32
Top 5 : 30.16
Top 7 : 29.61
Top 10 : 28.89
Top 13 : 28.6

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#2.
Shaq : Post Season - PER
Peak : 31
Top 5 : 30
Top 7 : 29.56
Top 10 : 28.52
Top 13 : 26.55
14th to 16th Season (Final 3 Seasons) - 18.33

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#4.
Duncan : Post Season - PER
Peak : 28.4
Top 5 : 26.96
Top 7 : 27.49
Top 10 : 26.67
Top 13 : 25.4

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#12.
Hakeem : Post Season - PER
Peak : 27.7
Top 5 : 24.95
Top 7 : 24.61

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#14.
KG : Post Season - PER
Peak : 25.5
Top 5 : 24.68
Top 7 : 24

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#15.
Kobe : Post Season - PER
Peak : 26.8
Top 5 : 24
Top 7 : 23
Top 10 : 22.98
Top 13 : 21.62

Excellent points dad.

[AlphaWolf24]

Ridiculously Better Production.
Team's 0ffensive and Defensive anchor.
100000x more impactful defensively.
Main focus of opposing defensives attracting more defenders then any player in the history of the game which directly opened the floor up for everyone else and made it very difficult for teams to double Kobe or any of the roleplayers.
Best Closer on the team.

Yea.. he was better in every possible facet.
I know Kobe Stans like you hate Stats because it shows how overrated he is.

so you would also agree that Kevin Love>Howard

Kevin Love> prime Hakeem.....since the numbers prove Love's Impact>any thing Hakeem has ever done...




thanks...proves you are a batsh!t crazy...

[DMAVS41]

If his '08 cast without Bynum and Ariza counts as a "legit championship contending supporting cast", then so does 90% of Dirk's casts.

Its all about each year. What supporting casts were better than the Lakers in 08 in the West. The Spurs with an injured Manu? The Hornets? LOL....

And if you want to throw out 08...go for it...they lost anyway and Kobe was pretty bad in the finals. Not like his supporting cast failed him or anything. Hard to win a title if you can't outplay Paul Pierce and your name is Kobe Bryant....also hard to win if you blow a 24 point lead at home....

[AlphaWolf24]

Excellent points dad




flawed stat's....


Kevin Love>Prime hakeem.....because of per


worthless......

well done my little crumb snatcher.....well done

[JohnnyWall]

Only irrational Kobe haters would get this mad at somebody posting factual statistics, however irrelevant they may be.

[32Dayz]

so you would also agree that Kevin Love>Howard

Kevin Love> prime Hakeem.....since the numbers prove Love's Impact>any thing Hakeem has ever done...




thanks...proves you are a batsh!t crazy...

Kevin love (production wise) is one of the best in the league.
However he is not a great individual 0ffensive player and would be exposed if his team actually made the playoffs. He also is a poor defender which obviously PER would not show you.

Your the crazy one.

Hakeem has multiple seasons in the regular season and playoffs with a better PER then Loves career Best.

[AlphaWolf24]

Its all about each year. What supporting casts were better than the Lakers in 08 in the West. The Spurs with an injured Manu? The Hornets? LOL....

And if you want to throw out 08...go for it...they lost anyway and Kobe was pretty bad in the finals. Not like his supporting cast failed him or anything. Hard to win a title if you can't outplay Paul Pierce and your name is Kobe Bryant....also hard to win if you blow a 24 point lead at home....

yup...because it's not like the 07' Mavericks "cast" was better then the Warriors....


08' Lakers couldn't compete with KG , Perkins and Powe on the interior rebounding or defense....

Gasol was outmatched as was Ronnie and Odom....but Kobe played amazing just to get to the NBA Finals....after all...Gasol never even won 1 post season game before

[32Dayz]

08' Lakers couldn't compete with the Celtics Kobe played like hot trash in that series and dominated the 0ffense (ballhog) which ruined any chance LA had at contending.

Gasol was outmatched as was Ronnie and Odom and Kobe....but Kobe and Gasol played amazing just to get to the NBA Finals....after all...Gasol just like Kobe was unable to win a single playoff series in the West before they united.

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[Doranku]

Its all about each year. What supporting casts were better than the Lakers in 08 in the West. The Spurs with an injured Manu? The Hornets? LOL....

And if you want to throw out 08...go for it...they lost anyway and Kobe was pretty bad in the finals. Not like his supporting cast failed him or anything. Hard to win a title if you can't outplay Paul Pierce and your name is Kobe Bryant....also hard to win if you blow a 24 point lead at home....

Kobe was going against one of the best defenses of the decade... Pierce was going against Radmanovic.

Boston was able to focus their entire defense on eliminating Kobe because no one else was stepping up. Gasol was playing like a paperback b!tch all series. Dude had three blocks the entire series.

Anyway, I don't really care about '08 anymore. LA could have won if Kobe played better, but he didn't. Oh well.

I do find it funny that you bring up Bynum when talking about how LA's supporting cast has been so good for the past 4 years, yet apparently Duncan didn't have the same type of help?

Nazr f*cking Mohammed had comparable stats to Bynum over LA's span of b2b championships. Bynum was gimp all throughout '09, and wasn't much better in '10. He certainly didn't produce like this dominant force that a lot of people make him out to be.

[AlphaWolf24]

Kevin love (production wise) is one of the best in the league.
However he is not a great individual 0ffensive player and would be exposed if his team actually made the playoffs. He also is a poor defender which obviously PER would not show you.

Your the crazy one.

Hakeem has multiple seasons in the regular season and playoffs with a better PER then Loves career Best.

no..no..no...Love also has better seasons "perwise" then prime Hakeem...

Love also has higher Per then many other HOF centers...

so "per per per" and neeener...neeener...neeener...Kevin Love Per wise> Hakeem , Unseld , Ewing , KG and many others....

because as any real fan knows..it's all about the Per and FG% Per and FG% Per and FG% Per and FG% Per and FG%

[D-Wade316]

Loving the back-and-forth between Alphawolf24 and 32Dayz

[AlphaWolf24]

How the 08 Lakers even got to the Finals is amazing....Lakers only had 1 allstar (Kobe) and a soft Euro who never won 1 playoff game....


Kobe da Gawd going to Finals like most Players go shoppin for SUV's...

amazin

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16 dayz preachin the gospel....

[JohnnyWall]

I do find it funny that you bring up Bynum when talking about how LA's supporting cast has been so good for the past 4 years, yet apparently Duncan didn't have the same type of help?

It's hilarious to watch. People like dmavs will say Bynum is worthless and perpetually-injured in a trade thread, then turn around and say Bynum is a great center when they think it helps their argument. Love it.