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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    of course the kobetards come into the thread making excuses.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
    of course the kobetards come into the thread making excuses.
    ...? LeBron is lower on this list.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Regular season or playoffs?

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
    of course the kobetards come into the thread making excuses.
    stfu bitch, like you can talk all up on lebrons cawk like you tryna have his kids

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    ...? LeBron is lower on this list.
    why you bringing up lebron? Stay mad little laker boy.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Uh... if you're currently tied it's not clutch at all really. It's a free shot. Hit it and win, miss it and go to overtime.

    Flawed stat is flawed.
    So if the score is tied, a game winning shot in Game 7 of the Finals isn't clutch. Got it

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Pretty lazy on the part of the researchers. stats.nba.com goes back to 96-97 (first season for which play-by-play data exists). Not many players still in the league from back then, but it would've taken them 5-10 more minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Droid101
    Uh... if you're currently tied it's not clutch at all really. It's a free shot. Hit it and win, miss it and go to overtime.

    Flawed stat is flawed.
    I sorta agree, but sorta disagree. It's clutch IMO, but I do think do-or-die shots, where you're down, and NEED to make a shot have more value than those to go ahead from a tie. Miss? You still have an OT period. Would be interesting to see this stat covering only situations in which you're down one possession.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
    why you bringing up lebron? Stay mad little laker boy.
    Why did you bring up 'Kobetards?' We're talking about an obscure stat.

    Quote Originally Posted by fpliii
    I sorta agree, but sorta disagree. It's clutch IMO, but I do think do-or-die shots, where you're down, and NEED to make a shot have more value than those to go ahead from a tie. Miss? You still have an OT period. Would be interesting to see this stat covering only situations in which you're down one possession.
    I can agree with this for the following reason:

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    So if the score is tied, a game winning shot in Game 7 of the Finals isn't clutch. Got it
    Situational, then. Mostly, not that clutch. Big playoff games? Much more clutch.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    "By trailing by 3 or less"

    Why 3? Why not 4 or 5 or 6.

    What was the reasons for choosing 3?

    Shooting for the tie or lead? So if they were down 3 and made a 2 it doesn't count towards this?
    Because it's essentially a one possession game at that point and teams often give up free 2's when they are up 3 and that would skew the numbers needlessly.

    Obviously it's not the end all be all, but 30 seconds left in one possession games seems like a really good indicator of super clutch situations. I'd love to see ft shooting and stuff like that as well.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    It says "when trailing by 3 or less(or tied)" & "when shooting for the lead or tie"

    So if you shoot a 2, while down 3, it apparently isn't being counted in this stat.. Because you aren't shooting for the lead or for the tie.
    Exactly....

    Because teams often give up two's there freely.

    What is so hard about this to understand? That would be bad information fed into the system.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    18-66

    Lol

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Kobe Bryant. Period.

    He has the balls and intestinal fortitude to make shit happen. No deferring. No fear.

    He, MJ, and Bird are the 3 best clutch players of all time.

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
    Kobe Bryant. Period.

    He has the balls and intestinal fortitude to make shit happen. No deferring. No fear.

    He, MJ, and Bird are the 3 best clutch players of all time.
    Lol at Kobe being more clutch than Russell

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Lol at Kobe being more clutch than Russell

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    Default Re: The most clutch player since the 2000-2001 season

    Quote Originally Posted by KyleKong
    18-66

    Lol
    18-66 > 10-43

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