Would Wilt Chamberlain make an All-Star team if he played in the '90s?

[Deuce Bigalow]

Funny how you dodge your past posting history.

He said that Bill Russell today would be Ben Wallace
So the guy that won 11 championships in Wilt's era, the guy who only allowed Wilt to win 1 championship when he was in the league would be Ben Wallace today.

[CavaliersFTW]

Are you stupid dude? Ok first off , Wilt has extra long arms, benching is far more difficult; and his arms look NOTHING like the people who can bench 500lbs. Lay off the pipe you parasite.

Do my posts look stupid to you? Tell me how you really feel

[CavaliersFTW]

He picks up 100 pound dumbells as easily as we pick up our telephones
He benched over 460 pounds at age 59 like it was a 'match stick'
Dunked the ball so hard it crushed opponent toes
He also was a world class volleyball player and he's in the volleyball hall of fame
My God, did I forget to say my God?

Your always sarcastic and I'm pretty sure your just trolling which is fine.

But in case you or anyone else is genuinely interested in discussing this: IMO when this chat thing was going on and that guy recalled seeing Wilt "Bench Press 465lbs like it was a match stick" was speaking in past-tense.

Honestly, it could have been as far back as the 1980's for all we know, Wilt looked (strength-wise) like he was in a peak conditioning perhaps in ~1984 for that movie Conan the Destroyer. He was weighed in at exactly 327lbs at that time. That's the same weight that Shaq was entering a training camp (out of shape - and round) in '00. Yet that 327lb Shaq - composed of a significantly higher bodyfat %, is okay in your minds to have been able to bench press 450lbs?

If so how is that okay, but a guy who weighs exactly the same but with barely any body fat benching 15lbs more suddenly isn't okay?

Explain

[Deuce Bigalow]

I'm pretty sure your just trolling which is fine but IMO when this chat thing was going on - what was being said about this guy seeing Wilt "Bench Press 465lbs like it was a match stick" was past-tense.

Meaning it could have been as far back as the 1980's for all we know, after all Wilt looks like he was in peak conditioning in ~1984 for that movie Conan the Destroyer. He was 327lbs at that time. That's the same weight that Shaq was entering training camp (out of shape - and round) in '00. Yet this Shaq with a much higher % of his body weight located in fat, can bench 450lbs? That's okay for you guys, but a guy who weighs exactly the same but with barely any body fat benching 15lbs more isn't okay?

Please explain

I don't know how much Shaq can bench, but Shaq is bigger than Wilt. Shaq would destroy Wilt if they ever played. Wilt is not even bigger than Andrew Bynum, let alone Shaq.

[jlauber]

I don't know how much Shaq can bench, but Shaq is bigger than Wilt. Shaq would destroy Wilt if they ever played. Wilt is not even bigger than Andrew Bynum, let alone Shaq.

[jlauber]

Shaq would destroy Wilt if they ever played. Wilt is not even bigger than Andrew Bynum, let alone Shaq

[jlauber]

I don't know how much Shaq can bench, but Shaq is bigger than Wilt. Shaq would destroy Wilt if they ever played. Wilt is not even bigger than Andrew Bynum, let alone Shaq.

[jlauber]

Dunce Bungalow's posts...

[jlauber]

BTW Dunce...

YOU still have not answered MY question. Where is YOUR evidence on Wilt's ACTUAL bench press? I have provided NUMEROUS sources in MY research on the topic, but all you bring up is that YOU don't believe them.

And once again, while the internet is PLASTERED with Chamberlain's bench press numbers, many in the 500+ range, where are the LEGITIMATE first hand accounts that DISPUTE them?

Why?

Until you can answer the above, please, refrain from wasting the time of the actual intelligent posters on this forum.

[Kiarip]

I don't know how much Shaq can bench, but Shaq is bigger than Wilt. Shaq would destroy Wilt if they ever played. Wilt is not even bigger than Andrew Bynum, let alone Shaq.

you're a moron stop posting.

god DAMN you're so stupid.

[Bodhi]

"Chamberlain once recalled driving across Arizona or New Mexico and pulling his car momentarily to the side of the road, when he was attacked by a mountain lion. He said the mountain lion jumped on his shoulder, and he grabbed it by the tail and flung it into the bushes.

''Well, I wasn't there,'' Cal Ramsey, the former Knick announcer, once said, ''but Wilt says it happened, and I'm not about to say it didn't. Besides, he showed me these huge scratch marks on one shoulder. I don't know any other way he could have gotten them.''

He also claims to have slept with 20,000 women and had a 50 inch vertical.

Come on, nobody actually believes Wilt's stories, right?

[jlauber]

In Wilt's LAST season, at age 36, he LED the NBA in rebounding (and by a solid margin.) He was voted first team all-defense (in a league with Lanier, Hayes, Thurmond, Cowens, and Kareem.) He shot .727 from the floor, which is an all-time record. In the playoffs, he played in 17 post-season games, taking his 60-22 Lakers to their FOURTH Finals in his FIVE years in LA. And, he played 47.1 mpg in those 17 games. AND, he averaged 22.5 rpg in those 17 games. Now, think about this...THAT was the LAST time a player ever averaged 20+ rpg in the post-season. In FACT, the next highest post-season, since, was Kareem's 17.3 rpg, in his 11 post-season games in the 76-77 season.

And, BTW, Wilt faced Kareem in SIX regular season H2H's in Wilt's LAST season. He outshot Kareem in those H2H's, by a staggering .737 to .450 margin. THIS, from a 36 (nearly 37) year old Wilt, and in his LAST post-season. Then, while Kareem led his 60-22 Bucks down in flames in the first round of the playoffs against Nate Thurmond's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Kareem shot .428 from the floor...Wilt LED HIS 60-22 Lakers to a 4-1 blowout over Nate's Warriors in the very next round, in a series in which he outrebounded Nate, per game, 23.6 to 17.2, and outshot him, .550 to .398.


THAT was a Chamberlain in his LAST NBA season. Now, go back to a PRIME Wilt, in the mid-60's. For instance, in his 65-66 season, Chamberlain LED the NBA in scoring, and by a solid margin, at 33.5 ppg. He LED the NBA in rebounding, and by a solid margin, at 24.6 rpg. He set a then-record in FG% (which he shattered the very next season) at .540 (in a league that shot .433 overall.) He even took the time to hand out 5.2 apg. Oh, and BTW, he LED his TEAM to the BEST RECORD in the league.

Not only all of the above, but he DESTROYED the league's BEST centers in that season. He outscored 6-11 HOF center, in their ten regular season H2H's, 8-1-1, and by a 33 ppg to 24 ppg margin. Included in those games were games in which he wiped out Bellamy by margins of 37-22, 38-23, 34-19, and 50-26.

Wilt faced 6-11 HOF center in nine H2H meetings in that 65-66 season. He outscored him 8-1. Included in those H2H's were games in which Wilt outscored Thurmond by margins of 33-17, 33-10, 26-9, 38-15, and even a monster 45-13 margin.

And Chamberlain faced the 6-10 HOFer Russell in a total of 14 H2H games, nine in the regular season, and five in the playoffs. In those 14 games, Wilt outscored Russell, per game, 28.2 ppg to 12.5 ppg. And, in those 14 games, Wilt enjoyed a 13-1 scoring edge. Chamberlain also outrebounded Russell in those 14 games, by a 10-4 margin. And in the process, he averaged 30.5 rpg to Russell's 24.0 rpg.

And how about these games that Wilt POUNDED Russell with that season...He had games where he outscored Russell by margins of 27-6, 29-3, 30-5, 28-13, 31-11, 32-8, 31-11, and in the clinching game five of the '66 ECF's, he outscored Russell, 46-18. How about his rebounding margins against Russell that season? He had margins of 30-10, 40-17, 36-20, 32-18, 30-20, and 42-25.

THAT was a PRIME "scoring" Wilt, who just OBLITERATED the NBA that season.

Of course, that was not the only season, either. Against Russell in the 66-67 season, Chamberlain not only led his 68-13 Sixers to a 4-1 rout of Russell's 60-21 Celtics in the ECF's, he did so by outscoring him, per game, 21.6 ppg to 10.2 ppg; by outassisting Russell, per game, in that series, 10.0 apg to 6.0 apg; by outrebounding Russell in that series, 32.0 rpg to 23.4 rpg; and by outshooting Russell from the floor in that series, .556 to .358. BTW, in the Finals that season, he outscored and outrebounded Thurmond, in five of their six H2H's, and outshot him from the floor in that series, .560 to .343.

Or that in the 64-65 season, Wilt faced HOFer Willis Reed in nine regular season H2H's, and outscored him, per game, by a 40.1 ppg to 24.8 ppg. He held an 8-1 edge in scoring batles that year against Reed, including games in which the margins were by 37-22, 41-8, 52-23, and 58-28.

Or that Wilt had entire seasons, against Russell, of 39.7 ppg and 38.1 ppg (outscoring Russell in those nine games that year by a 38.1 ppg to 14.0 margin.) Or that Chamberlain held a 24-0 edge in 40+ point games against Russell, including FIVE of 50+, and even one game in which he outscored Russell by a 62-23 margin (on 27-45 shooting.) Or that Wilt held a 132-10 margin in scoring H2H's against Russell. Or that Chamberlain held a 92-42-8 rebounding margin in those 142 H2H's, including MANY in which he just buried Russell (e.g., one game by a 55-19 margin.) Or that Wilt had FOUR post-seasons against Russell of 30+ ppg, and two more of 28.0 ppg and 29.2 ppg. In one of those post-season H2H's, Chamberlain put up a seven game series of 30 ppg and 31 rpg against Russell.

And Chamberlain absolutely CRUSHED Bellamy in their H2H's. In a span of 20 straight games, covering the '62 and '63 seasons, Chamberlain averaged 47 ppg against Bellamy (43.7 ppg in '63, and a mind-boggling 52.7 ppg in '62.) Included in those H2H's were THREE games of 60+, and a HIGH game of 73 points (and with 36 rebounds.)

Now, if a PRIME Chamberlain could CARPET BOMB those HOF centers, just what in the hell would he have done in the 90's???

[Deuce Bigalow]

Is there anybody more delusional than jlauber?

[miller-time]

And you KNOW this how again?

i don't know it. it is speculation like everyone elses post in this thread.

[Deuce Bigalow]

In Wilt's LAST season, at age 36, he LED the NBA in rebounding (and by a solid margin.) He was voted first team all-defense (in a league with Lanier, Hayes, Thurmond, Cowens, and Kareem.) He shot .727 from the floor, which is an all-time record. In the playoffs, he played in 17 post-season games, taking his 60-22 Lakers to their FOURTH Finals in his FIVE years in LA. And, he played 47.1 mpg in those 17 games. AND, he averaged 22.5 rpg in those 17 games. Now, think about this...THAT was the LAST time a player ever averaged 20+ rpg in the post-season. In FACT, the next highest post-season, since, was Kareem's 17.3 rpg, in his 11 post-season games in the 76-77 season.

And, BTW, Wilt faced Kareem in SIX regular season H2H's in Wilt's LAST season. He outshot Kareem in those H2H's, by a staggering .737 to .450 margin. THIS, from a 36 (nearly 37) year old Wilt, and in his LAST post-season. Then, while Kareem led his 60-22 Bucks down in flames in the first round of the playoffs against Nate Thurmond's 47-35 Warriors, in a series in which Kareem shot .428 from the floor...Wilt LED HIS 60-22 Lakers to a 4-1 blowout over Nate's Warriors in the very next round, in a series in which he outrebounded Nate, per game, 23.6 to 17.2, and outshot him, .550 to .398.


THAT was a Chamberlain in his LAST NBA season. Now, go back to a PRIME Wilt, in the mid-60's. For instance, in his 65-66 season, Chamberlain LED the NBA in scoring, and by a solid margin, at 33.5 ppg. He LED the NBA in rebounding, and by a solid margin, at 24.6 rpg. He set a then-record in FG% (which he shattered the very next season) at .540 (in a league that shot .433 overall.) He even took the time to hand out 5.2 apg. Oh, and BTW, he LED his TEAM to the BEST RECORD in the league.

Not only all of the above, but he DESTROYED the league's BEST centers in that season. He outscored 6-11 HOF center, in their ten regular season H2H's, 8-1-1, and by a 33 ppg to 24 ppg margin. Included in those games were games in which he wiped out Bellamy by margins of 37-22, 38-23, 34-19, and 50-26.

Wilt faced 6-11 HOF center in nine H2H meetings in that 65-66 season. He outscored him 8-1. Included in those H2H's were games in which Wilt outscored Thurmond by margins of 33-17, 33-10, 26-9, 38-15, and even a monster 45-13 margin.

And Chamberlain faced the 6-10 HOFer Russell in a total of 14 H2H games, nine in the regular season, and five in the playoffs. In those 14 games, Wilt outscored Russell, per game, 28.2 ppg to 12.5 ppg. And, in those 14 games, Wilt enjoyed a 13-1 scoring edge. Chamberlain also outrebounded Russell in those 14 games, by a 10-4 margin. And in the process, he averaged 30.5 rpg to Russell's 24.0 rpg.

And how about these games that Wilt POUNDED Russell with that season...He had games where he outscored Russell by margins of 27-6, 29-3, 30-5, 28-13, 31-11, 32-8, 31-11, and in the clinching game five of the '66 ECF's, he outscored Russell, 46-18. How about his rebounding margins against Russell that season? He had margins of 30-10, 40-17, 36-20, 32-18, 30-20, and 42-25.

THAT was a PRIME "scoring" Wilt, who just OBLITERATED the NBA that season.

Of course, that was not the only season, either. Against Russell in the 66-67 season, Chamberlain not only led his 68-13 Sixers to a 4-1 rout of Russell's 60-21 Celtics in the ECF's, he did so by outscoring him, per game, 21.6 ppg to 10.2 ppg; by outassisting Russell, per game, in that series, 10.0 apg to 6.0 apg; by outrebounding Russell in that series, 32.0 rpg to 23.4 rpg; and by outshooting Russell from the floor in that series, .556 to .358. BTW, in the Finals that season, he outscored and outrebounded Thurmond, in five of their six H2H's, and outshot him from the floor in that series, .560 to .343.

Or that in the 64-65 season, Wilt faced HOFer Willis Reed in nine regular season H2H's, and outscored him, per game, by a 40.1 ppg to 24.8 ppg. He held an 8-1 edge in scoring batles that year against Reed, including games in which the margins were by 37-22, 41-8, 52-23, and 58-28.

Or that Wilt had entire seasons, against Russell, of 39.7 ppg and 38.1 ppg (outscoring Russell in those nine games that year by a 38.1 ppg to 14.0 margin.) Or that Chamberlain held a 24-0 edge in 40+ point games against Russell, including FIVE of 50+, and even one game in which he outscored Russell by a 62-23 margin (on 27-45 shooting.) Or that Wilt held a 132-10 margin in scoring H2H's against Russell. Or that Chamberlain held a 92-42-8 rebounding margin in those 142 H2H's, including MANY in which he just buried Russell (e.g., one game by a 55-19 margin.) Or that Wilt had FOUR post-seasons against Russell of 30+ ppg, and two more of 28.0 ppg and 29.2 ppg. In one of those post-season H2H's, Chamberlain put up a seven game series of 30 ppg and 31 rpg against Russell.

And Chamberlain absolutely CRUSHED Bellamy in their H2H's. In a span of 20 straight games, covering the '62 and '63 seasons, Chamberlain averaged 47 ppg against Bellamy (43.7 ppg in '63, and a mind-boggling 52.7 ppg in '62.) Included in those H2H's were THREE games of 60+, and a HIGH game of 73 points (and with 36 rebounds.)

Now, if a PRIME Chamberlain could CARPET BOMB those HOF centers, just what in the hell would he have done in the 90's???