Tim Duncan pushing for that GOAT crown in Basketball

[Dizzle-2k7]

He has absolutely no shot at GOAT. Kareem was better in his prime/peak and was significantly better at age 38. His accolades? They speak for themselves. And that's a guy that most consider 2-5 all time and not GOAT.

LOL kareem big softy... must be nice playing with MAGIC the goat PG and an all time stacked squad every year

fukk outta here.. kareem wouldnt even start in todays league.. he'd get bullied left n right

tim duncan is the greatest big man of all time and a top 3 player (mj, duncan, russell)

[ninephive]

Coming in to this year he was top 3-5. If he keeps doing this in the playoffs, he will add to his case for GOAT. His main argument IMO against Jordan is that Jordan proved he couldn't win without a really good team & coach, but we don't know what Timmy would do. Kareem's main resume weakness is that he played with 2 top-15 players. Timmy never played with 1.

[Ne 1]

stacked squad every year

Kareem had what, Oscar on his last legs? This was especially obvious in the '74 season. After that, prime Kareem never really got the teams to compete, like Jordan had, or Bird/Magic had. Kareem was literally leading 15-20 win teams to 50+ wins for the later portion of the 70s.

[BlakFrankWhite]

#2 All time

more longetivity then Bird,Magic....

never jumped teams like KAJ

[Noob Saibot]

Grandpa Duncan schoolin' all these man children with the art of postups. sad really.

[nightprowler10]

Man, I love TD to bits, but he's not top 5.

[Carbine]

People just posting Kareems PPG as the reason why he was better. SMH

Duncan is still an elite rebounder and defender. Kareem you could argue was a liability in both areas at an advanced age.

[gts]

The best centers of his late years peaked after he retired. Ewing, Olajuwon, Robinson emerged after, Mutombo too, Mourning, Shaq, etc. He had to deal with the Mark Eatons and Robert Parishes of the league, too inferior to do anything.

You obviously started watching BBall in the 90's

[Showtime80']

Please!!! A 1986-87 Kareem would murder this soft no post playing NBA like it was nothing. Look at what Tim Duncan can do at his age to one of the most athletic frontlines in the league! A 38 year old Kareem would drop at least 40 on Blake and DeAndre, just ask Hakeem and Sampson!

And please stop with the whole "it's so difficult to score in the post" BS. The REAL reason for that is because classic post skills are DEAD!!! Except of course for Duncan who can still give free lessons on any given night, too bad the present crop of bigs are all athleticism and no brains to learn something from a master post player!

[305Baller]

Please!!! A 1986-87 Kareem would murder this soft no post playing NBA like it was nothing. Look at what Tim Duncan can do at his age to one of the most athletic frontlines in the league! A 38 year old Kareem would drop at least 40 on Blake and DeAndre, just ask Hakeem and Sampson!

And please stop with the whole "it's so difficult to score in the post" BS. The REAL reason for that is because classic post skills are DEAD!!! Except of course for Duncan who can still give free lessons on any given night, too bad the present crop of bigs are all athleticism and no brains to learn something from a master post player!

[wally_world]

He also played in a much tougher era for big men. Duncan can dominate the post because the post game is non existent in current NBA.

You can turn it the other way around.

Current NBA allows the perimeter to have a much easier game, thus it is even tougher for post players to dominate.

[Showtime80']

Again Kareem killed HARD ZONES in college with no 3 point shot in existence, no shot clock and dunking band!

You think today's NBA soft zone (which virtually nobody uses) and the plethora of mediocre centers on display would even make Kareem flinch? Please. Total domination by the Captain is what would take place and we're not even talking about the 70's Kareem, I salivate to think what that version would do now!

[oarabbus]

Again Kareem killed HARD ZONES in college with no 3 point shot in existence, no shot clock and dunking band!

You think today's NBA soft zone (which virtually nobody uses) and the plethora of mediocre centers on display would even make Kareem flinch? Please. Total domination by the Captain is what would take place and we're not even talking about the 70's Kareem, I salivate to think what that version would do now!

Wow, how did basketball and its players get so much worse over the last 30 years? Football players are better, baseball players are better, swimmers are better, runners are better, hell even cars and planes are better... but somehow basketball players today suck!

[T_L_P]

http://streamable.com/zxno

No player in the NBA has a desire to win more than Duncan.

[Showtime80']

Because basketball unlike all the other sports you mentioned hitched it's wagon on the image, style of play and marketing of one man by the name of Michael Jordan!!! After that athleticism became a priority over basic skills and fundamentals. The problem with that is that basketball like soccer per se doesn't really require brut physical or athletic force to excel at it, great technique, skill and fundamentals can overcome any athletic disadvantage (Lionel Messi ring a bell) and those are the qualities that the 80's guys had in spades.

I would agree that you have more ATHLETES now but the 80's had better BASKETBALL PLAYERS overall, no coincidence that it was the last decade before the "I wanna be like Mike" syndrome took hold and everybody has seen the drastic effects that's had on the quality of play